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gossamer		...	24-02-2011 @ 21:07
gassamer more like Member 2182, 489 posts SQ 220, BP 150, DL 250 620.0 kgs @ 115kgs UnEq	Tannhauser said: Again, I don't disagree with your conclusion, but I've quoted what I think is a major assumption on your part. What evidence is there that the presence of liquid water means there is a 'good chance of life'? No. of planets known to have liquid water = 1. No. of planets known to have life = 1. So we don't know if the chances of life developing in the presence of liquid water are 100%, 50%, 1% or 0.0000000000000000000000000000000001%. I'm not convinced that 'scientific' attempts to estimate this percentage are anything more than guessing. As Rick put it, in summary, f**k knows. okay lets just say 'chance' instead of 'good chance'. Still - 150 sextillion? There's gotta be a dead cert in there somewhere.

Wiegieboard		...	24-02-2011 @ 21:12
as crimson as my last victims underclothing..... Member 899, 11371 posts SQ 180, BP 132.5, DL 190 502.5 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq	put base elements in a jar with water and Co2, heat it, run a spark inside the jar and you'll get amino acids. I don't think that life is as rarer as is made out. The oldest living organism on earth is growing inside ice at - temperatures. It can be done.

Rick		...	24-02-2011 @ 22:52
I am a bench-only guy Member 3, 10068 posts SQ 185, BP 175, DL 235 595.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq Administrator	gossamer said: Evidence suggests bottlenose dolphins, some apes, possibly elephants and maybe even magpies (ripped straight from wikipedia so it must be true). To describe this as "controversial and far from universally accepted" would be something of an understatement. It's been a flashpoint for debate, both for scientists and philosophers, for a very long time.

Rick		...	24-02-2011 @ 22:57
I am a bench-only guy Member 3, 10068 posts SQ 185, BP 175, DL 235 595.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq Administrator	Wiegieboard said:put base elements in a jar with water and Co2, heat it, run a spark inside the jar and you'll get amino acids. I suspect you're referring to the famous Miller-Urey experiment and its successors. Two comments only: 1. the mix of gases they used was a lot more "helpful" than the primordial atmosphere 2. amino acids aren't in question anyway, we find them everywhere - in meteorite fragments etc. Proteins are the problem. Protein-formation requires an energy-absorbing reaction, which makes it very very difficult to cause to happen without intervention, and the only thing that intervenes in this way is life. So you have a chicken/egg situation - we know of no protein-free life and no life-free proteins. My (lay) understanding is that protein formation is the big, not-well-understood stumbling block. Well, the first one, anyway, there are plenty more . Disclaimer: this is not my specialist subject, so there may be errors.

IainKendrick		...	24-02-2011 @ 23:01
some nice relaxing jazz. Member 77, 12599 posts SQ 265, BP 165, DL 280 710.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq	Really I didn't realise so many sugdenties wore tin foil hats?

Tannhauser		...	24-02-2011 @ 23:34
fighting woo with woo Member 206, 1491 posts SQ 227.5, BP 165, DL 260 652.5 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	IainKendrick said:Really I didn't realise so many sugdenties wore tin foil hats? That's because the hats go nicely with the ties.

Tannhauser		...	24-02-2011 @ 23:50
fighting woo with woo Member 206, 1491 posts SQ 227.5, BP 165, DL 260 652.5 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	Rick said: To describe this as "controversial and far from universally accepted" would be something of an understatement. It's been a flashpoint for debate, both for scientists and philosophers, for a very long time. It's a fascinating one. For all the faults with mirror tests, for my money they do show that some animals have self-recognition. But I think there's a tendency for reductively-thinking biologists to conflate 'self-recognition' and 'self-awareness'. In my opinion, there is a lot more to self-awareness in the sense we usually mean it. TBH, I think it requires language. Which leads me to agree with your observation on youtube comments. As these are largely only the written equivalent of grunting sounds, this leads me to think the many posters on there have not yet achieved self-awareness.

Rick		...	25-02-2011 @ 00:17
I am a bench-only guy Member 3, 10068 posts SQ 185, BP 175, DL 235 595.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq Administrator	As so often, we agree entirely .

LukeC		...	25-02-2011 @ 01:21
The one in the guns and roses teeshirt. Member 171, 2462 posts SQ 272.5, BP 140, DL 245 657.5 kgs @ 80.2kgs Eq	Tannhauser said: It's a fascinating one. For all the faults with mirror tests, for my money they do show that some animals have self-recognition. But I think there's a tendency for reductively-thinking biologists to conflate 'self-recognition' and 'self-awareness'. In my opinion, there is a lot more to self-awareness in the sense we usually mean it. TBH, I think it requires language. Which leads me to agree with your observation on youtube comments. As these are largely only the written equivalent of grunting sounds, this leads me to think the many posters on there have not yet achieved self-awareness. Well put that man.

tlast2O12dude		...	25-02-2011 @ 02:35
Obvious Juicer Member 1613, 1036 posts SQ 185, BP 140, DL 220 545.0 kgs @ 66kgs UnEq	yes and yes. PS: it's well known that meteors did bring life to earth during the millionsof years it has. Alien life, cells and s**t.

SMed		...	25-02-2011 @ 06:30
a splendid chap, unlike some bitches on here Member 1670, 1705 posts SQ 190, BP 112.5, DL 220 522.5 kgs @ 89.5kgs UnEq	http://zomgscience.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/tinfoil.png

SMed		...	25-02-2011 @ 06:43
a splendid chap, unlike some bitches on here Member 1670, 1705 posts SQ 190, BP 112.5, DL 220 522.5 kgs @ 89.5kgs UnEq	To the people that think there is nothing special about Earth/humans and that there is no intelligent life here... Do you see the world through s**t-tinted glasses?

billynomates		...	30-07-2023 @ 18:36
Member 4923, 1795 posts	Anyone been following the UFO Congressional hearings recently? Fascinating stuff.

The_Lone_Wolf		...	31-07-2023 @ 11:57
I eat a lot of meat Member 5124, 3014 posts SQ 245, BP 130, DL 275 650.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq	billynomates said:Anyone been following the UFO Congressional hearings recently? Fascinating stuff. From a distance yes, but I have strong doubts that any official release will be made saying they have alien craft, technology and of course, bodies etc.

billynomates		...	13-09-2023 @ 22:24
Member 4923, 1795 posts	https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/mexican-congress-holds-heari... Mexico reveal alien bodies.

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