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Funky_monkey		...	24-02-2011 @ 11:42
403 forbidden message Member 160, 5121 posts SQ 190, BP 137.5, DL 225 552.5 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq	1 - Yes 2 - No. Nearest star is Proxima Centurai, I think 4.2 light years away or about 25 trillion miles away. At 40,000km/h it would take over 113,000 years just to get there. Even if you were just supposing that there is a planet with intelligent life in each solar system, it doesn't seem feasible. If they saw us now with flight, man-made sattelites and other means of "intelligence" then by the time they got here we would have destroyed ourselves anyway. I can't remember who said it, I think it was Hawking - "the only reason we will never make contact with intelligent life is because by the time one is capable of doing so, they will destroy themselves first." The closest earth like planet is "only" 20 light years away, so you're looking at 116 trillion miles or 4,640,000,000 years or 4.64 billion years. This is assuming you're doing 40,000km/h or 25,000mph. 4.6 billion years is roughly the age of our planet, so they'd arrive now if they left as soon as our planet was formed - with no simple life, only basic gasses. The only way I see anything coming remotely close is travelling close to the speed of light. Did a bit of research and the only thing that's close to this is a Nuclear Pulse Rocket, which is setting off nuclear explosions and using the energy from that to power a rocket. Nearest earth-like star http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliese_581_c Nuclear Pulse Rocket http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_pulse_propulsion

Funky_monkey		...	24-02-2011 @ 12:01
403 forbidden message Member 160, 5121 posts SQ 190, BP 137.5, DL 225 552.5 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq	luke00 said:1. We are certainly not intelligent and if we are the only life in the entire universe then it truly is all a bit pointless. 2. We have definately been visited, we only have to look at things like the NAZCA lines. They can only be seen from above, some are like giant runways. You can only tell what some are from the upper atmosphere. Th pyramids and the way they are alligned with the stars today, they wouldn't have been when built. Alot of these ancient civilisations were vastly advanced. Drawings have been found in Egyptian digs of wht look to be light bulbs and other modern technologies. Now it could be the future us time travelling or it could be an alien species. Let's entertain the idea that aliens could travel here in an instant (they can travel at many times the speed of light without altering time or something, it doesn't have to make sense. It all makes as much sense as the following.) Aliens would travel to earth to draw pictures of a monkey in a field and build giant structures for human leaders, then bugger off? Why were there no drawings of aliens and only gods (which resembled dogs, cats etc.) by the Egyptians? Why wouldn't they worship aliens or at least include pictures of them? RE: Us travelling back in time. If we did travel back in time to do pyramids and NAZCA, wouldn't we also have people go back and cure cancer, prevent famine, reduce pollution etc? I'm assuming we'd be able to transport our technologies back in time, do a job then transport them back with us.

Pompy		...	24-02-2011 @ 12:28
My opinions have run their course Member 694, 3112 posts	We are so arrogant as a species we literally think we are top of the heap. Off topic but that's what annoys me about climate change/eco friendly stuff. We will not destroy the planet however hard we try, we won't stop it supporting life. We might kill ourselves off or destroy all our resources but the planet will make them all again in the long term. If we do survive we've got a long way to go science and technology wise before we'll be capable of discovering an alien race. Like the funky monkey quoted above I think we will eventually destroy ourselves. GOOD THREAD BY THE WAY WAYNE!

goodwinm		...	24-02-2011 @ 12:30
a PB is a PB ! Member 539, 1086 posts	They told me not to say anything. They made me promise. They..

nitsua19		...	24-02-2011 @ 12:30
Member 1262, 347 posts SQ 180, BP 95, DL 213 488.0 kgs @ 77kgs UnEq	Funky_monkey said: Let's entertain the idea that aliens could travel here in an instant (they can travel at many times the speed of light without altering time or something, it doesn't have to make sense. It all makes as much sense as the following.) Aliens would travel to earth to draw pictures of a monkey in a field and build giant structures for human leaders, then bugger off? Why were there no drawings of aliens and only gods (which resembled dogs, cats etc.) by the Egyptians? Why wouldn't they worship aliens or at least include pictures of them? RE: Us travelling back in time. If we did travel back in time to do pyramids and NAZCA, wouldn't we also have people go back and cure cancer, prevent famine, reduce pollution etc? I'm assuming we'd be able to transport our technologies back in time, do a job then transport them back with us. Very good point. Do you reckon time travel will ever be possible?

IainKendrick		...	24-02-2011 @ 14:10
some nice relaxing jazz. Member 77, 12599 posts SQ 265, BP 165, DL 280 710.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq	Wayne_Cowdrey said:Question 1 - Do you think there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe? Question 2 - Do you think aliens have ever visited Earth? Probable. Unlikley.. panspermia aside

IainKendrick		...	24-02-2011 @ 14:13
some nice relaxing jazz. Member 77, 12599 posts SQ 265, BP 165, DL 280 710.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq	Time travel is possible and happens all the time.

IainKendrick		...	24-02-2011 @ 14:14
some nice relaxing jazz. Member 77, 12599 posts SQ 265, BP 165, DL 280 710.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq	luke00 said:1. We are certainly not intelligent and if we are the only life in the entire universe then it truly is all a bit pointless. 2. We have definately been visited, we only have to look at things like the NAZCA lines. They can only be seen from above, some are like giant runways. You can only tell what some are from the upper atmosphere. Th pyramids and the way they are alligned with the stars today, they wouldn't have been when built. Alot of these ancient civilisations were vastly advanced. Drawings have been found in Egyptian digs of wht look to be light bulbs and other modern technologies. Now it could be the future us time travelling or it could be an alien species. Another week another sugden nutter expossed. I mean that in kind way

luke00		...	24-02-2011 @ 15:19
either Im a penis or Im not a penis Member 722, 2977 posts SQ 300, BP 220, DL 350 870.0 kgs @ 123kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 24.02.2011 @ 15:20 PM by luke00 Funky_monkey said: Let's entertain the idea that aliens could travel here in an instant (they can travel at many times the speed of light without altering time or something, it doesn't have to make sense. It all makes as much sense as the following.) Aliens would travel to earth to draw pictures of a monkey in a field and build giant structures for human leaders, then bugger off? Why were there no drawings of aliens and only gods (which resembled dogs, cats etc.) by the Egyptians? Why wouldn't they worship aliens or at least include pictures of them? RE: Us travelling back in time. If we did travel back in time to do pyramids and NAZCA, wouldn't we also have people go back and cure cancer, prevent famine, reduce pollution etc? I'm assuming we'd be able to transport our technologies back in time, do a job then transport them back with us. I am not saying the aliens drew them I'm saying the Incas drew them for the liens to see. They can only be seen from above, so why else would they make them. And have you never seen 'Event Horizon'. You don't have to travel at the speed of light, just create a black hole by folding space on itself and going through. Like folding a piece of paper and punching a hole through to get to the other side, rather than going around.

luke00		...	24-02-2011 @ 15:21
either Im a penis or Im not a penis Member 722, 2977 posts SQ 300, BP 220, DL 350 870.0 kgs @ 123kgs UnEq	IainKendrick said: Another week another sugden nutter expossed. I mean that in kind way Some of the greates theorists in history have been accussed of being nutters. L

Namonster		...	24-02-2011 @ 15:35
always trolling for a reaction Member 753, 1280 posts	Yes Yes

IainKendrick		...	24-02-2011 @ 15:42
some nice relaxing jazz. Member 77, 12599 posts SQ 265, BP 165, DL 280 710.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq	luke00 said: Some of the greates theorists in history have been accussed of being nutters. L True... but vast, vast majority of them were simply nutters

Boar		...	24-02-2011 @ 15:42
Nothing left in the tank. Member 5, 25597 posts Administrator	Wayne_Cowdrey said:Question 1 - Do you think there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe? Question 2 - Do you think aliens have ever visited Earth? having been around for 13 tousand million years .... there will have meen many many many civilisations born .....lasted 5...10...100 million years and died out with this universe somewhere out there, sometime s**t like starwars will be happening !! i dont think they have visited ...we are like a small ant sat on a apple pip in south america ...some other ant in yemen aint gonna spot him, esp if that ant lived 3000 years previous

drew		...	24-02-2011 @ 15:43
I thought Joplin choked on a sandwich? Member 616, 8404 posts SQ 180, BP 130, DL 220 530.0 kgs @ 78.8kgs UnEq	luke00 said: I am not saying the aliens drew them I'm saying the Incas drew them for the liens to see. They can only be seen from above, so why else would they make them. quote] oh right that sounds perfectly logical then

RobJ		...	24-02-2011 @ 16:09
The 500lb deadlift is out there ..... Member 772, 191 posts SQ 202.5, BP 142.5, DL 230 575.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq	Pompy said:We are arrogant as a species to think we are intelligent. How are we not an intelligent species?

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