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| bruce |  | ... | 22-01-2013 @ 10:12 |
 a champion ...from the future !! Member 1806, 3968 posts SQ 210, BP 140, DL 240590.0 kgs @ 89kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 22.01.2013 @ 10:12 AM by bruce jones105 said: I agree with u mate,I just feel I am being fobed off an its not right.I'm guna stick with this chiro for now,defo get a physio Drew,every thing u mentioned iv done mate.iv told them I'm not happy and requested physio,second opinions and getting now we're lol. Think I'll try the GP and ask them to refur me... Iv looked up chiro's on net and found mixed reviews.a lot saying the have helped with back and posture etc...some saying its bollax.. Trial and error realy Double | ||
| bruce | | ... | 22-01-2013 @ 10:12 |
a champion ...from the future !! Member 1806, 3968 posts SQ 210, BP 140, DL 240590.0 kgs @ 89kgs UnEq | jones105 said: I agree with u mate,I just feel I am being fobed off an its not right.I'm guna stick with this chiro for now,defo get a physio Drew,every thing u mentioned iv done mate.iv told them I'm not happy and requested physio,second opinions and getting now we're lol. Think I'll try the GP and ask them to refur me... Iv looked up chiro's on net and found mixed reviews.a lot saying the have helped with back and posture etc...some saying its bollax.. Trial and error realy I just think that u shouldnt have to ask or try push them to do the right thing. I only got referred because I new what I needed, that's not good enough in my mind | ||
| drew | | ... | 22-01-2013 @ 10:15 |
 I thought Joplin choked on a sandwich? Member 616, 8404 posts SQ 180, BP 130, DL 220530.0 kgs @ 78.8kgs UnEq | jones105 said: I agree with u mate,I just feel I am being fobed off an its not right.I'm guna stick with this chiro for now,defo get a physio Drew,every thing u mentioned iv done mate.iv told them I'm not happy and requested physio,second opinions and getting now we're lol. Think I'll try the GP and ask them to refur me... Iv looked up chiro's on net and found mixed reviews.a lot saying the have helped with back and posture etc...some saying its bollax.. Trial and error realy It's a logical extension to think that if you get mixed reviews on dr's who spent 5yrs as a student then however many getting a consultancy you will also get some chiros who know they're field and some who don't What exactly is wrong with you? What did the specialist surgeon/physio recommend as a course of action? | ||
| Dave85 | | ... | 22-01-2013 @ 10:22 |
to row or not to row ...that is the question Member 1963, 811 posts SQ 202.5, BP 140, DL 265607.5 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | I had a terrible experience with a consultant about my knee. The consultant didn't have a clue about my history, hadn't looked at the MRI or the X-ray, didn't explain the procedure, didn't explain my options. He walked into the room, flicked through my file in silence for a few seconds then asked me what I wanted to do. At this point I had no idea what was wrong with my knee or what the options were so had no response. However, I had a brilliant experience with the NHS when I had to get a CT scan and MRI scan for another injury. On both occasions I turned up early for my appointments and on both occasions I was seen before the appointment time and out earlier! Could not knock them at all. Had follow up appointments booked in, had the procedures explained to me, everything was really good. Pot luck really with who sees you and where you get seen just like every other job... | ||
| jones105 | | ...... | 22-01-2013 @ 11:25 |
most definatley not an idiot Member 2731, 3590 posts SQ 260, BP 170, DL 300730.0 kgs @ 87kgs Eq | drew said: It's a logical extension to think that if you get mixed reviews on dr's who spent 5yrs as a student then however many getting a consultancy you will also get some chiros who know they're field and some who don't What exactly is wrong with you? What did the specialist surgeon/physio recommend as a course of action? I have ac seperation grade 1..this I found out myself via internet because at first I was diagnosed with arthritus...I put it to 1 of the doctors and he agreed with me that ac seperation is what I got...2 cortizons,brufen,heat and ice treatment was advised. I have asked on several occations for physio,but was told no! Go home and put hot water bottle on it... I do have bad posture aswel,shoulders and head arch forword.this I knew befor I went to chiro...the chiro has told me he can fix this this,and possibly my shoulder.. | ||
| drew | | ... | 22-01-2013 @ 11:51 |
I thought Joplin choked on a sandwich? Member 616, 8404 posts SQ 180, BP 130, DL 220530.0 kgs @ 78.8kgs UnEq | jones105 said: I have ac seperation grade 1..this I found out myself via internet because at first I was diagnosed with arthritus...I put it to 1 of the doctors and he agreed with me that ac seperation is what I got...2 cortizons,brufen,heat and ice treatment was advised. I have asked on several occations for physio,but was told no! Go home and put hot water bottle on it... I do have bad posture aswel,shoulders and head arch forword.this I knew befor I went to chiro...the chiro has told me he can fix this this,and possibly my shoulder.. a quick google threw this up http://www.udel.edu/PT/PT%20Clinical%20Services/journalclub/so... im at work so i cant read it fully but it might give a good rounded view of what you could/should be doing, on a quick scan it seemed to talk about the benefits of a variety of treatment techs something i hvae been thinking all the way through this post but until now the thread has been blocked at work and ive replied on my phone and i cant be bothered to type a long winded thing on my hpone a point just to mull over, you may well be right about the treatment you want been the correct course of action, but bare in mind it is hard not to let your opinion cloud your judgment, you may well have demanded surgery, had it turned down by 6 of the 7 drs and been relentless untill you finally got it with the 7th. it doesnt make it the right course of action. it may well make it the right course though. what i mean is by getting a few drs saying its arthritis might be correct, but your not happy with it and kept going back untill you came with your own evidence and because your convinced and you found someone who agreed doesnt make it right, you both might be wrong and theoter 6 drs you saw right. that has nothing to do with your situation at all, people naturally will agree with someone who gives them the asnwers they want. those answers might be right or might not what youve said is you have a grade 1 AC joint seperation, i do not dispute that. if you do there is physio/rehab you can do that seems to be listed in the article and with a google im sure will be discussed further. you say you have poor posutre and shoulder is held in a bad position. id imagine you have far too internally rotated shoulders as your bench is strong. this will lead to shoulder injuries and bad posture. its covered vastly on the internet as is reletivly simple biomechanics. here is an article by that eric cresset fellow i mentioned before about assessing physiques and using visual cues to assess imaballances. internal rotation is covered if i remember correctly http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_traini... you probably suffer a range of these, anyone who trains and sits in a chair will to some extent too you need to fix these issues if you have them, or you will suffer more injuries over time. things such as SLAP tears are all further down the line a chiro doesnt need to tell you this, some quick reading will show you exactly how to stretch and strengthen your shoulders and posture and elieviate symptoms does that make sense? | ||
| jones105 | | ............... | 22-01-2013 @ 13:38 |
most definatley not an idiot Member 2731, 3590 posts SQ 260, BP 170, DL 300730.0 kgs @ 87kgs Eq | i will have a good look at these mate.... the reason i looked into my injury and was not happy with what the first drs said wasbecause i had clear lump on my shoulder,raised clavicle....common with ac seperation.... im happy with that diagnosis now,as the last few drs agree,iv also seen a few lads in gym with it(rygby boys).... the surgery i refused on the grounds that i believed the maybe another route to take...also my age... when i made a fuss i saw this other specialist and fairplay he was thougher,the only one who went through my scans,had a feel around and advised me to stay clear of the surgery on offer as its not nessesery...told me to rest it,ice heat etc.... this i did with little affect.... can you now see why im frustrated! on a skale of 1 to 10(10 being worse) daily pain is 1 to 3 at most,so im not exactly dieng lol.... thanks for your help | ||
| drew | | ... | 22-01-2013 @ 13:56 |
I thought Joplin choked on a sandwich? Member 616, 8404 posts SQ 180, BP 130, DL 220530.0 kgs @ 78.8kgs UnEq | i did something similar after crashing into a tree downhill mountain biking. a lot of treatment is either based in radiology where i work or has a close working relationship with radiology, i abused the system and got gold standard care during the week after my injury i was assessed by a consulatnt ortho surgeon who assessed me, i had plain xrays taken within two weeks i had an MRI and a week later a MRI arthrogram i was then referred to a physio as an cons radiologist decided the potential tear was a natural varient, which was good news not a palm off i was reffered to a advanced scope physio who assessed me to have an imballance and several follow up appointments addressed the issue. thw whole process still took months but i didnt have to wait for appoinments or results, but hey if i cant abuse the system who can without the initial querry on the first MRI about a tear i never would of had the 2nd fancier one or that delay, id of just gone to the physio earlier the physio said i was bog standard gym goes with too much internal strength and too little external YTWLs face pulls and pull aparts, super light, super strict and lots of volume every other day | ||
| jones105 | | ... | 22-01-2013 @ 14:09 |
most definatley not an idiot Member 2731, 3590 posts SQ 260, BP 170, DL 300730.0 kgs @ 87kgs Eq | drew said:i did something similar after crashing into a tree downhill mountain biking. a lot of treatment is either based in radiology where i work or has a close working relationship with radiology, i abused the system and got gold standard care during the week after my injury i was assessed by a consulatnt ortho surgeon who assessed me, i had plain xrays taken within two weeks i had an MRI and a week later a MRI arthrogram i was then referred to a physio as an cons radiologist decided the potential tear was a natural varient, which was good news not a palm off you not wrong mate,if you can doit,go for it i say... face pulls with a rope u mean,seated?i used to do these,somtimes i do forget some exercises....i dont get no problems doing over head just bench and deadlift now and then.... think i just need to do a lil more research possibly.try and get a refural...if nothing comes of that then defo seek a physio myself i was reffered to a advanced scope physio who assessed me to have an imballance and several follow up appointments addressed the issue. thw whole process still took months but i didnt have to wait for appoinments or results, but hey if i cant abuse the system who can without the initial querry on the first MRI about a tear i never would of had the 2nd fancier one or that delay, id of just gone to the physio earlier the physio said i was bog standard gym goes with too much internal strength and too little external YTWLs face pulls and pull aparts, super light, super strict and lots of volume every other day | ||
| bigdave30 | | ... | 22-01-2013 @ 14:23 |
| Avatar not found if I had a hat on I would take it off Member 3343, 1045 posts SQ 330, BP 170, DL 350850.0 kgs @ 141.8kgs Eq | havnt read the full thread, so someone may have told u this.. if you was private (bupa) most prob, the problem would have been sorted a while back, i waited 23 mnths for aknee reconstruction with the nhs, and then they did a botch job.. the cortizone is a touchy subject with doctors, they dont like prescribing it, the doctors in the welsh rugby union will only give 2 shots every 10 mnths, however, if you ask your doctor about glucosamine injections, you can get 1 a week for 4 weeks and it will do the job!! horrible injection tho... from past experience, i would consider going private m8... jones105 said:guys,i have put a number of post up here about my shoulder trouble,ac joint etc etc.... my last visit to the hospital(20th dec)made me very angry........!! after a few mins the doctor told me there is nothing more they can do for me,just to put hot water bottle on it...what the f**k.....no refural or f**k all...would evan give me a cortizone shot ans was unaware that iv all ready had 2! my reply to that was'thats what you get from seeing a different doctor every time i come here' iv had all the scans,ultra sound,mri several x-rays and finaly after 18months i was told i had ac seperation grade 1...first doctor told me i had arthritus!! i am now seeing a chiropractor and fuk me,i have had 2 30mins sessions and its don wonders! my shoulder pain is caused by 2things,1 ac joint sprain,seperation and bad posture..easiest way to explain(becasue i cant remember all the fancy words)it my shoulder has rolled foward internally forceing my head and knees forward...this worried me at first,but was assured its easily treated...2 seshes in and i all ready have reduced pain... im just trying to get a message across..if you have any problems with joints,injuries go and see a chiro..i have lost all faith i had in the nhs...iv waited 2years trying to get treated with them....and feel that the is more treatment avialable for fat people and f**king drug addicts... | ||
| drew | | ... | 22-01-2013 @ 14:25 |
I thought Joplin choked on a sandwich? Member 616, 8404 posts SQ 180, BP 130, DL 220530.0 kgs @ 78.8kgs UnEq | bigdave30 said:havnt read the full thread, so someone may have told u this.. if you was private (bupa) most prob, the problem would have been sorted a while back, i waited 23 mnths for aknee reconstruction with the nhs, and then they did a botch job.. the cortizone is a touchy subject with doctors, they dont like prescribing it, the doctors in the welsh rugby union will only give 2 shots every 10 mnths, however, if you ask your doctor about glucosamine injections, you can get 1 a week for 4 weeks and it will do the job!! horrible injection tho... from past experience, i would consider going private m8... you get treated by exactly the same drs privately as through the NHS | ||
| bigdave30 | | ... | 22-01-2013 @ 14:32 |
| Avatar not found if I had a hat on I would take it off Member 3343, 1045 posts SQ 330, BP 170, DL 350850.0 kgs @ 141.8kgs Eq | Post Edited: 22.01.2013 @ 14:33 PM by bigdave30 yea good point, a doctor is a doctor, like i said from past experience, iv found private to be much better than nhs...drew said: you get treated by exactly the same drs privately as through the NHS | ||
| jones105 | | ..... | 22-01-2013 @ 14:35 |
most definatley not an idiot Member 2731, 3590 posts SQ 260, BP 170, DL 300730.0 kgs @ 87kgs Eq | drew said: you get treated by exactly the same drs privately as through the NHS True,but a lot of people do say to go private for better sevice?I don't knw Nath I didn't knw they did gluc injections.may thorw that at them....I'm supposed to under DR sharma up charlies,iv never meet DR sharma! Lol Maybe I'll jus try for a refural,make my concirnes clear and see what comes from that... | ||
| drew | | ... | 22-01-2013 @ 14:36 |
I thought Joplin choked on a sandwich? Member 616, 8404 posts SQ 180, BP 130, DL 220530.0 kgs @ 78.8kgs UnEq | bigdave30 said:yea good point, a doctor is a doctor, like i said from past experience, iv found private to be much better than nhs... i dont mean as in a dr is a dr, the same dr will go from the NHS hospital to a bupa one and run another clinic, litterally the same person | ||
| martinb | | ... | 22-01-2013 @ 14:38 |
 Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | drew said: i dont mean as in a dr is a dr, the same dr will go from the NHS hospital to a bupa one and run another clinic, litterally the same person Yes, there isn't some special private medical school somewhere churning out superior doctors | ||