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AaronJ | ... | 07-03-2015 @ 22:07 | |
Intolerant of old shtick. Member 5276, 431 posts SQ 222, BP 145, DL 265632.0 kgs @ 96kgs UnEq | Fazc said:Deadlift is more stressful because people generally pull from a dead stop from the floor. So why do it? Pull each rep touch n go. No one's failing from the floor anyway (on a conventional). I actually find touch n go more stressful! But that's just me. | ||
PhillippeHalter | ... | 07-03-2015 @ 22:09 | |
Are horror films healthy...? Member 5449, 2203 posts | Fazc said:Deadlift is more stressful because people generally pull from a dead stop from the floor. So why do it? Pull each rep touch n go. No one's failing from the floor anyway (on a conventional). Can you touch and go without technique and all the activation unaffected and unchanged I see bounce and go but am personally yet to see t and g that was always with good form | ||
AMH_Power | ... | 07-03-2015 @ 22:10 | |
we ride at dawn Member 4363, 1442 posts SQ 310, BP 250, DL 320880.0 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq | PhillippeHalter said:fried CNS Right... Same for squat and half for deads... Cool. Now that I think about it I thought you was going to say x.75 for squat and x.5 for deads Great Again solid template... Then from there more advances can be made like you say! Great advice as always I don't know your current lifts... but for advanced lifters I'd recommend building up to week one, by having 3 week prior of a week hitting 30, then 40, then 50.... then start week 1. Advanced lifters usually need an accumulation phase especially after a rest or off season type stuff.... However beginner/intermediates can mug off a prep phase, just FYI. | ||
Fazc | ... | 07-03-2015 @ 22:10 | |
Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts | JohnGym said: I do. John What I mean to say is if you're failing from the floor it's the equivalent of getting pinned on the Bench. The problem there is either : 1) The weight is just unreasonably heavy. 2) Your form went to hell on a max attempt, not unusual. A proper failed lift will usually start to slow at the upper shins and maybe fail at knees or a little higher. | ||
Fazc | ... | 07-03-2015 @ 22:11 | |
Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts | PhillippeHalter said: Can you touch and go without technique and all the activation unaffected and unchanged I see bounce and go but am personally yet to see t and g that was always with good form Just like anything isn't it, proper technique is needed. | ||
PhillippeHalter | ... | 07-03-2015 @ 22:13 | |
Are horror films healthy...? Member 5449, 2203 posts | AMH_Power said: I don't know your current lifts... but for advanced lifters I'd recommend building up to week one, by having 3 week prior of a week hitting 30, then 40, then 50.... then start week 1. Advanced lifters usually need an accumulation phase especially after a rest or off season type stuff.... However beginner/intermediates can mug off a prep phase, just FYI. The knowledge again...! Right if I meet any advanced lifters I will also tell them this... Although I do try to avoid them if I can! | ||
JohnGym | ... | 07-03-2015 @ 22:14 | |
Hamstrings feel activated. Member 1107, 6964 posts SQ 220, BP 152.5, DL 252.5625.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | Fazc said: John What I mean to say is if you're failing from the floor it's the equivalent of getting pinned on the Bench. The problem there is either : 1) The weight is just unreasonably heavy. 2) Your form went to hell on a max attempt, not unusual. A proper failed lift will usually start to slow at the upper shins and maybe fail at knees or a little higher. You are probably right mate. You know your s**t of course. In my experience though, pretty much anything I break from the floor I can finish. It's extremely rare for me to fail anything after it breaks. | ||
PhillippeHalter | ... | 07-03-2015 @ 22:15 | |
Are horror films healthy...? Member 5449, 2203 posts | Fazc said: Just like anything isn't it, proper technique is needed. Which is extremely difficult on bounce and go deadlifts... For me anyway Like I say though (I think I said) it makes complete sense from a movement perspective I love a bit of movement comparison! | ||
Fazc | ... | 07-03-2015 @ 22:19 | |
Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts | JohnGym said: You are probably right mate. You know your s**t of course. In my experience though, pretty much anything I break from the floor I can finish. It's extremely rare for me to fail anything after it breaks. It's just what I've seen in my own lifting, and with the guys I train with. Was at a competition the other weekend and quite a few third attempts were basically upper shin to knee and lost it. But you know we're all individuals. Saw your recent Bench PR on the YouTubes mate very good! | ||
JohnGym | ... | 07-03-2015 @ 22:20 | |
Hamstrings feel activated. Member 1107, 6964 posts SQ 220, BP 152.5, DL 252.5625.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | Fazc said: Saw your recent Bench PR on the YouTubes mate very good! Thanks mate. I refer back to your bench tips....I got fat. | ||
Fazc | ... | 07-03-2015 @ 22:38 | |
Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts | JohnGym said: Thanks mate. I refer back to your bench tips....I got fat. Ha! That is the way forward! Good lifting man, I'm a wreck at the moment injuries everywhere and been off for a couple weeks. Will be back in the gym on Monday. | ||
frankie1parke | ... | 08-03-2015 @ 09:38 | |
Squat depth : approved. Member 3804, 224 posts SQ 300, BP 180, DL 272.5752.5 kgs @ 115kgs UnEq | where you fail on dl is dependant on back position in my experience and what ive observed with others. a lifter who keeps his back flat will struggle/fail off the floor and but will complete to lift if they get it moving. however a rounded back lifter will always have it fly off the floor but will struggle/fail at lockout. | ||
DomRedshaw | ... | 08-03-2015 @ 10:40 | |
Uk limbo dancing champion Member 2666, 6551 posts SQ 202, BP 170, DL 255627.0 kgs @ 88kgs UnEq | for me it was changing to close grip and weight gain. | ||
AaronJ | ... | 08-03-2015 @ 13:41 | |
Intolerant of old shtick. Member 5276, 431 posts SQ 222, BP 145, DL 265632.0 kgs @ 96kgs UnEq | Looks like I'm going to have to put AMH's plan on hold for a few days. Strained one of my erectors warming up on squats this morning! | ||
StrengthStudent | ... | 08-03-2015 @ 19:02 | |
Member 5515, 286 posts SQ 200, BP 130, DL 210540.0 kgs @ 87kgs UnEq | frankie1parke said:where you fail on dl is dependant on back position in my experience and what ive observed with others. a lifter who keeps his back flat will struggle/fail off the floor and but will complete to lift if they get it moving. however a rounded back lifter will always have it fly off the floor but will struggle/fail at lockout. This. Also, regarding T&G deadlifts, I tried them out for the first time about a month or so back just out of curiosity. Does anyone think they carry over well to a 1RM? Video of how I was doing them: They definitely allow you to get more volume in (I.e. I would probably only get 12 or so reps with 150 dead stop as opposed to 19 T&G) and I know lifters like George Leeman swear by them. | ||