CBL question ?!?!?

i think i might just ditch the Carbs in the PWO shake but leave in the greens as it will still leave me under the 30g up to the Evening meal.

but its seems to be working and so long as the weight keeps coming off then i cant argue.

As already said, the best approach is up for debate still.

Are carbs essential post workout, well it depends on goals. Whey and leucine should still spike insulin post workout anyway.

any of you guys use this type of thing

http://www.myprotein.com/sports-nutrition/mct-oil/10790076.htm...

i have just been using Cream and Cocconut oil in my coffee drink with oil soft gel caps

I've used straight MCT oil in the past, got it from ebay... Think it was made by MVT?

Anyway, just be careful because if you take too much it can cause some serious blowouts and be very painful.

I just use coconut oil now.

Coconut oil it is, have you tried krill oil flaxseed oil and Udo oil?

Yes mate, tried them all and noticed no real world difference.

Krill oil is suppose to be the best but the price reflects that... If I had plenty of money I would buy this all the time as my primary source of omega 3, but I can't afford it so just use normal omega 3 fish oil.

UDO's is a blend of oils, and again supposed to be very good. However there are alternative products out there offering similar profiles, for less money.

The only fat supps I use are omega 3 fish oil and coconut oil. I don't see the need to add any extra omega 6 or 9 in to my diet other than O3's.

suppose, but krill, cod, flax, udo and coconut oils just give me a variaty through the day.

i seen no difference when using either mct, coconut oil, grass fed butter or heavy cream in my coffee first thing. I really don't think it matters just go for what's convenient and cheap.

i'm liking the double cream and coconut oil. tried kerrygold butter once never again. and the MCT i havent tried and probably will not in all honesty

iv tried them all, what I use now is half a scoop of choc whey, coffee, hot water and 5 tea spoons of whipping cream. and I have that first thing and pre workout.

table spoon of vannila coffee
heapped tea spoon of extra thing double cream
half a scoop of diet whey
cold water
mix then add a little hot water and down it.

durring the day shakes.
pre training it just coffee and creatine

Don't have whey in your coffee - Just have it as a small shake and enjoy your creamy coffee as it's meant to be

Oh - That diet whey has far too many carbs in it, just get some concentrate and save the other stuff for post workout

If I want to drop weight/fat, would I be right in saying these are the basics:
Every day only coffee with cream/oil before 1 PM, finish eating every day by 11PM.
Every day high fats/protein.
First 7-10 days no direct carbs, keep it under the 30g throughout the day including after training.
Thereafter, just have carbs post workout? Would a shake immediately after workout with dextrose & whey be necessary? Would a banana pre workout be ok or would that ruin the whole point of this diet?

What happens if you deviate away from this on one day or have a night drinking etc? All gainz lost or can carry on as normal, without doing the 7-10 days zero carbs again?

Are they the basic principles or am I completely off track?

Posted from my desk, whilst sipping on a creamy coffee.

Thanks

im no expert . . . . but

The basic structure withoutn going into depth with macros is basically this

7-10 days low carb keto style diet (less then 30g per day)

then carb up on the 7th or 10th day ( go crazy)
from then on push your first meal back as far as possible
10g whey, coffee with some cream is ok to have first thing without breaking the fast

all pre workout meals must be fats and protein only

train in the evening

have some protein n carbs pwo ( I use 2 scoops whey and 700ml milk works fine)

wait 30mins to an hour then start eating high GI carbs (white bread, white rice, potato for most I prefer Oreos and ben and jerrys)

start with 200g carbs per backload and see what you look like the next day

if you look soft and holding water you had to much carbs

If you are weak in the gym you didn't have enough

If you wake up jacked and tan you got I right!

also with the drinking I would go with vodka and a diet drink, coke etc.

I go out most weekends and do this but if im drinking I don't backload with carbs I just stick to fats and protein in the day then get pissed.

a bonus of this is you wake up looking dry and lean from dehydration.
( a good thing if you've pulled the night before)