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The_Lone_WolfIcon...27-09-2023 @ 09:47 
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Sparksy said:I recently had blood tests after my first 3 months of trt; Testovan Gel. Testosterone is up from 7 to 18. PSA levels unchanged and cholesterol levels lower. Feel loads better too. Thumbs up from me.


This is superb news mate, great stuff!

Have all the previous negative feelings and things you had going on all improved too?

Noticed any other positives etc?
SparksyIcon...27-09-2023 @ 20:34 
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Energy, mood, focus and libido all much improved. Game changer for me!
The_Lone_WolfIcon...29-09-2023 @ 11:26 
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Sparksy said:Energy, mood, focus and libido all much improved. Game changer for me!



Jackpot! Delighted for you pal.
SparksyIcon...30-09-2023 @ 09:30 
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The_Lone_Wolf said:
Jackpot! Delighted for you pal.


Cheers! Fingers crossed you get a similar outcome
matthewvcIcon...02-10-2023 @ 15:22 
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Sparksy said:Energy, mood, focus and libido all much improved. Game changer for me!


sounds good. the aim of TRT is not to get jacked, but to find the
dosing amount and frequency that puts you inside natural limits
and not so much you need extras like Arimidex, BP or cholesterol meds.
AdamTIcon...04-10-2023 @ 09:54 
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Though I still feel relatively good, I will get my test levels checked next year. I was doing some research and there are a couple of private practices that are very good and not too expensive either
The_Lone_WolfIcon...15-11-2023 @ 11:34 
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Update from weak and feeble ballbag city...

Endo appointment booked in for 4th December!

I have not been told what the meeting entails, or what I need to do for prepping... but I shall go in tiny sack swinging and ready for battle.

As a side note, the last few days I have been really low on all fronts. It certainly does seem to come and go, and brain fog at times very bad.
The_Lone_WolfIcon...06-12-2023 @ 11:49 
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Quick update...

Had my appointment at the hospital with the endo and it was a waste of time. She wants more bloods and will then see me hopefully in 3 months.

The only solution she could offer me was to lose weight.

I'm 110kg at 5'10 - Im not the leanest of course, but I'm not a huge weak skinny fat mess.

I told them all of my issues, my struggles and so on.

I am getting to the point where I just want to fudge my results and force them into treatment. The current cost of living crisis means I can't afford to go private, or even black market. I left the meeting feeling very deflated and just fed up.

c**ts!
AdamTIcon...06-12-2023 @ 14:44 
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Post Edited: 06.12.2023 @ 14:46 PM by AdamT
Don't take this the wrong way mate, but trim off 10-20kg and then have your bloods taken
I was 120Kg at 6 foot pre covid and I thought I felt decent

However, losing over 20kg has made a huge difference. I feel like I am 25 again rather than approaching 40. Although to be fair my energy levels, libido where not bad per say, they have increased a lot

So again, I don't mean to be rude, but help yourself first, then if they don't increase? Push harder or just go private mate

In fact many go private because of the length of time etc it takes through the NHS.

Cleaning up the diet, getting some good cardio in and shifting excess fat can do wonders for your wellbeing.

Of course if your levels are still low, then that is a proper medical issue. However, the NHS are a joke and I would still help myself.

Pete Rubish abused the f**k out of Drugs for over a decade and he has numerous videos up on how he improved his health and fitness, while slowly rebuilding his Test levels without TRT. He is only 30, but he has some good stuff on the subject.

Good luck either way

Edit

Just read the part about not affording private
Then you have to push
The_Lone_WolfIcon...08-12-2023 @ 15:48 
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AdamT said:Don't take this the wrong way mate, but trim off 10-20kg and then have your bloods taken
I was 120Kg at 6 foot pre covid and I thought I felt decent

However, losing over 20kg has made a huge difference. I feel like I am 25 again rather than approaching 40. Although to be fair my energy levels, libido where not bad per say, they have increased a lot

So again, I don't mean to be rude, but help yourself first, then if they don't increase? Push harder or just go private mate

In fact many go private because of the length of time etc it takes through the NHS.

Cleaning up the diet, getting some good cardio in and shifting excess fat can do wonders for your wellbeing.

Of course if your levels are still low, then that is a proper medical issue. However, the NHS are a joke and I would still help myself.

Pete Rubish abused the f**k out of Drugs for over a decade and he has numerous videos up on how he improved his health and fitness, while slowly rebuilding his Test levels without TRT. He is only 30, but he has some good stuff on the subject.

Good luck either way

Edit

Just read the part about not affording private
Then you have to push


No offence taken pal, I am a fat f**k anyway so I know I need to lose weight.

The reality of course is that it is now my only option to lose weight... Which is not a bad thing anyway for my overall health.

Private is well out of my current cashflow, and black market is also out of reach too. NHS is going to be a long slog for treatment too, but it is the only route I have so I need to ride it out.

I will undertake a change of ways and shed some weight, but the hardest part is my current lack of drive, desire and general feeling of feeling like a sack of s**t. Brain fog is often crippling at times, and eveything is just a slog, but I have no choice but to 'man up' and try my best.

I think the best approach for me will be very aggressive fasting, keto diet and exercising more than my daily walk to and from work of 5k.
rawlifterIcon...08-12-2023 @ 20:52 
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AMH_Power said:Just thought I'd share something that may be of value. I've never taken anything along the lines of hormones etc with the exception of prednisolone for severe hay fever. Anyway...

When I returned to training following a tear in the artery in my neck, I was just feeling down and depressed all the time; and put it down to side effects of having a stroke etc. Anyway, I got a blood test just in case.

It came back at 12.1 nmol and 98 pnol for oestradiol; which from my understanding is on the lower side, but not TRT low low. A second test about 9 weeks later was 11.9, so wasn't a single bad test from sleep or stress etc.

Anyway, I made some adjustments/habits/supplement changes:

Fadogia Aggrestis: 800mg a day.
Turkesterone: 1000mg a day.
Tongkat Ali: 400mg a day.

8 hours sleep, religiously.

Blast my balls with cold shower water 2x a day.

Anyway, my last hormone test was 24.6nmol testosterone and 82pmol for oestradiol. I went on to bench 250kg and right now, probably the strongest I've ever been @37 and suffering some mega set backs.

I don't doubt there's a mix and match of placebo/nocebo/actual change from the above, but even if one of them makes a difference, I'll remain as is.

I'd exhaust this before making a leap into a hole without a ladder!




Heard a lot about Fadogia and Tongkat - however wary of poor quality products - what brand/where do you get from mate?
AdamTIcon...17-12-2023 @ 22:55 
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Post Edited: 17.12.2023 @ 22:57 PM by AdamT
The_Lone_Wolf said:
No offence taken pal, I am a fat f**k anyway so I know I need to lose weight.
The reality of course is that it is now my only option to lose weight... Which is not a bad thing anyway for my overall health.
Private is well out of my current cashflow, and black market is also out of reach too. NHS is going to be a long slog for treatment too, but it is the only route I have so I need to ride it out.
I will undertake a change of ways and shed some weight, but the hardest part is my current lack of drive, desire and general feeling of feeling like a sack of s**t. Brain fog is often crippling at times, and eveything is just a slog, but I have no choice but to 'man up' and try my best.
I think the best approach for me will be very aggressive fasting, keto diet and exercising more than my daily walk to and from work of 5k.


Just do your best buddy and push those c**ts to do right by you

The NHS are usless and backwards in many ways. I have good faith by this time next year you will be doing much better one way or the other

We have to help ourselves first and make sure we also get the medical attention we deserve

Good luck and keep us posted! I genuinely hope you do much better soon

I wasn't trying to be condescending in my post, just that losing some timber can at least help in a little way. I know motivation is going to be tough with low testosterone, but you can do it.
The_Lone_WolfIcon...19-01-2024 @ 14:48 
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Happy New Year one and all!!!

Update 897...

During my previous appointment with the Endo, she ordered me to take another bloodtest.

I booked in and had a bloodtest just before Christmas. It was my 3rd blood test of the year.

The results eventually came back with my test at 9, which is still just above the NHS treatment range. I called and emailed to try and speed up a follow up phone call with the Endo to see what her thoughts are of the results.

When she muttered the line that my test still was not classed as low, my heart sank. BUT, she said due to my long list of issues, she was going to start me on a 3 month trial of TRT gel. I was over the moon!

Yesterday I finally picked up the gel and I started today. Let's see what happens now!
matthewvcIcon...19-01-2024 @ 19:57 
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The_Lone_Wolf said:Happy New Year one and all!!!

Update 897...

During my previous appointment with the Endo, she ordered me to take another bloodtest.

I booked in and had a bloodtest just before Christmas. It was my 3rd blood test of the year.

The results eventually came back with my test at 9, which is still just above the NHS treatment range. I called and emailed to try and speed up a follow up phone call with the Endo to see what her thoughts are of the results.

When she muttered the line that my test still was not classed as low, my heart sank. BUT, she said due to my long list of issues, she was going to start me on a 3 month trial of TRT gel. I was over the moon!

Yesterday I finally picked up the gel and I started today. Let's see what happens now!


Good news. I bet an upswing in energy, mood and libido will be the first things you notice.
The_Lone_WolfIcon...22-01-2024 @ 15:13 
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matthewvc said:
Good news. I bet an upswing in energy, mood and libido will be the first things you notice.




100% good sir... Strange really how I've gone from feeling like a lifeless slug, to feeling positive, happy and somewhat normal. Maybe it is placebo? I don't know but I will take it that is for sure!!!

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