how do you save a beloved friend from vegetarianism?

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Joni		...	12-10-2011 @ 14:37
left the country satisfied Member 10, 19241 posts SQ 240, BP 150, DL 270 660.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq	mikehowarth said: Snoring you mean you hypercondriac! I knew you'd throw in some ascended morality to explain you're secretly worried about looking out of shape lol no, sleep apnea, the same lethal s**t you have! NEVER AGAIN i will have that.

martinb		...	12-10-2011 @ 14:42
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5 677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq	Joni said: no, sleep apnea, the same lethal s**t you have! NEVER AGAIN i will have that. you guys never actually had that did you? don't you have to be HUGE to get that?

Joni		...	12-10-2011 @ 14:45
left the country satisfied Member 10, 19241 posts SQ 240, BP 150, DL 270 660.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq	martinb said: you guys never actually had that did you? don't you have to be HUGE to get that? nah, some are just more prone to it than others. Sometimes dont really need to be all that fat either. mine went away when i got below certain level of bodyfat.

mikehowarth		...	12-10-2011 @ 14:46
Not so much as forgotten as can't remember Member 894, 4924 posts SQ 245, BP 167.5, DL 272.5 685.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	How alarmist do you sound! Waking your partner up sleeping is one thing but I'm certain deep apnea needs to be diagnosed (by a doctor)

Ben_F		...	12-10-2011 @ 14:48
vegetarian with a big deadlift - who would have thought... Member 340, 13300 posts SQ 315, BP 190, DL 350 855.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq	IainT said:Ben - not to try and make you feel worse or cause offence, but a lot of people are unaware of the 'toll' associated with dairy. At my uncle's farm my rather blunt cousin recently detailed it for my brother's vegetarian cheese-eating fiance. Absolutely, if I followed my own logic I would be either Vegan or a meat eater, my form of vegetarianism is a cop-out really... but I guess I have become comfortable enough with it.

Joni		...	12-10-2011 @ 14:50
left the country satisfied Member 10, 19241 posts SQ 240, BP 150, DL 270 660.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq	mikehowarth said:How alarmist do you sound! Waking your partner up sleeping is one thing but I'm certain deep apnea needs to be diagnosed (by a doctor) hey, ask before judging, otherwise you dont sound all that friendly Mine was diagnosed by a doctor actually - though in an informal setting, as in shared a room with a doctor lol!

mikehowarth		...	12-10-2011 @ 15:03
Not so much as forgotten as can't remember Member 894, 4924 posts SQ 245, BP 167.5, DL 272.5 685.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	Joni said: hey, ask before judging, otherwise you dont sound all that friendly Mine was diagnosed by a doctor actually - though in an informal setting, as in shared a room with a doctor lol! I am too friendly, it's a huge flaw aswell as being too nice u fortunately... But hey ho The process I am going through is much much more convoluted and laborious than an informal chat in a room, so I may press this more now Did he give you any other assistance other than weight loss?


Joni		...	12-10-2011 @ 15:08
left the country satisfied Member 10, 19241 posts SQ 240, BP 150, DL 270 660.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq	mikehowarth said: Did he give you any other assistance other than weight loss? weight loss is by far the best treatment. I had the common type of obstructive sleep apnea, and now that i dont have it, i sleep so much better. would need to be an utter idiot to deliberately go back to it.

mikehowarth		...	12-10-2011 @ 15:13
Not so much as forgotten as can't remember Member 894, 4924 posts SQ 245, BP 167.5, DL 272.5 685.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	Joni said: weight loss is by far the best treatment. I had the common type of obstructive sleep apnea, and now that i dont have it, i sleep so much better. would need to be an utter idiot to deliberately go back to it. Best stay skinny then I mean in a good way though With any luck I will get better advice for me

IainT		...	12-10-2011 @ 15:19
normal people, like me. Member 2325, 550 posts	Post Edited: 12.10.2011 @ 15:20 PM by IainT Ben_F said: Absolutely, if I followed my own logic I would be either Vegan or a meat eater, my form of vegetarianism is a cop-out really... but I guess I have become comfortable enough with it. That post of mine wasn't clear in that I recognise completely that you get it. I was really aiming it at the general ignorance of farming that exists out there. We hear every now and again that some kids surveyed don't know what animal 'beef' comes from, but knowledge of dairy or egg production is much more limited. I couldn't get by without meat, vegetarianism is discouraged and veganism very strongly discouraged for people with my medical condition, it's difficult enough to get enough calories anyway, meat and dairy goes a long way to helping that. Add in training on top of that, and I couldn't do it. Have occasionally considered dropping red meat, mainly because I like cows but don't give a s**t about chickens and fish. But, I'll always eat dairy so haven't.

JEDtheImpaler		...	25-10-2011 @ 12:43
Member 2751, 37 posts SQ 130, BP 100, DL 150 380.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq	Really interesting topic. I might have a go at the Vegan diet. My wife has been veggie/vegan from the age of 14 and i've always been tempted to join her.

Joni		...	25-10-2011 @ 14:42
left the country satisfied Member 10, 19241 posts SQ 240, BP 150, DL 270 660.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq	JEDtheImpaler said:Really interesting topic. I might have a go at the Vegan diet. My wife has been veggie/vegan from the age of 14 and i've always been tempted to join her. good man. just pm me, baldy or some other vegan prick if you need any help/info. no need to do all the mistakes on your own Then again, your wife probably already knows whats what.

Harry		...	25-10-2011 @ 23:15
I have sex with women Member 2122, 310 posts SQ 180, BP 135, DL 220 535.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq	1369phil said:If God didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat he wouldn't have made them so tasty you mean?

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