ram, sling shot or ballista
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| walker |  | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 09:21 |
 Does not need Advice, knows everything. Member 3505, 3510 posts SQ 295, BP 182.5, DL 290767.5 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | martinb said: How many raw guys fail a bench at the top? I do  | ||
| martinb | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 09:37 |
 Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | walker said: martinb said: How many raw guys fail a bench at the top? I do So one then  Is that weak triceps or lack of speed of the chest so you stall at the top? | ||
| walker | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 09:44 |
Does not need Advice, knows everything. Member 3505, 3510 posts SQ 295, BP 182.5, DL 290767.5 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | martinb said: So one then Is that weak triceps or lack of speed of the chest so you stall at the top? Definitely tris.. I know Macca fails at the top, as does Sob so it is fairly common. The slingshot type devices must help with the overload they allow. I use ram but as I've just switched back from shirted to raw my lockout is stronger now anyway! | ||
| shanejer | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 10:06 |
Member 1307, 14110 posts SQ 355, BP 240, DL 370965.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq | Used all 3 If you're going into a shirt, - ram Tricep death - slingshot .. (I have double ply one its awsome) Want to snap it buy a SS ballista | ||
| drew | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 10:29 |
 I thought Joplin choked on a sandwich? Member 616, 8404 posts SQ 180, BP 130, DL 220530.0 kgs @ 78.8kgs UnEq | shanejer said:Used all 3 If you're going into a shirt, - ram Tricep death - slingshot .. (I have double ply one its awsome) Want to snap it buy a SS ballista interesting points, i wont be wearing a shirt so the RAM is out, it is for the tris so slingshot seems the right choice nick was down last night and gave me his ballista, the seams are all gone from the 1st time he used it but i figured it would be ok with the weights ill be using. or at least ill find out tongiht plan is just do some cg then throw it on for a couple of sets after, is that the right approach? | ||
| shanejer | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 10:31 |
Member 1307, 14110 posts SQ 355, BP 240, DL 370965.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq | My ballista snapped on 100kg and after 2 months was stretched so basically gave nothing! SS will last forever ! And you can use it how you like, I warm up paused put it on t&g then some paused work raw after, to train top end in SS and Lower end raw paused I ain't no bench specialist though | ||
| drew | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 10:57 |
I thought Joplin choked on a sandwich? Member 616, 8404 posts SQ 180, BP 130, DL 220530.0 kgs @ 78.8kgs UnEq | interesting my thinking was use it as an accessory, much like incline or dumbells, the best accessory to pressing is simply more pressing in my head | ||
| hifilover | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 11:01 |
 Member 3241, 2043 posts SQ 1, BP 192, DL 255448.0 kgs @ 136kgs UnEq | See I rarely fail on lock-out but lost drive around 2/3 of the way through at times... Strong off chest and strong lock-out but seem to lose drive at times midrange Benched for the 1st time last night on boards and all was well until around 180kg'ish and lost my line and it just went downhill from there so need to do more of these as well... | ||
| drew | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 11:12 |
I thought Joplin choked on a sandwich? Member 616, 8404 posts SQ 180, BP 130, DL 220530.0 kgs @ 78.8kgs UnEq | hifilover said:See I rarely fail on lock-out but lost drive around 2/3 of the way through at times... Strong off chest and strong lock-out but seem to lose drive at times midrange Benched for the 1st time last night on boards and all was well until around 180kg'ish and lost my line and it just went downhill from there so need to do more of these as well... im the same, but its a variant and more pressing instead of say pushdowns will be more beneficial. movement patterns or some balls. "my triceps are too strong" - said no one, ever | ||
| jimmyf | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 11:15 |
 Member 4098, 532 posts SQ 235, BP 150, DL 260645.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | Good to use to build lock out power really as it will help rebound from the chest with much heavier weight than your used to, a lot have sticking points 3-4" off the chest and this will aid that portion of the lift IMO. I have a super ram and use it even for close grip full rom reps. Just anther tool, suppose kind of like using boards but you get a full rom rep. | ||
| hifilover | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 11:21 |
Member 3241, 2043 posts SQ 1, BP 192, DL 255448.0 kgs @ 136kgs UnEq | drew said: im the same, but its a variant and more pressing instead of say pushdowns will be more beneficial. movement patterns or some balls. "my triceps are too strong" - said no one, ever I do lots of tricep pushdowns and parallel bar dips etc... Just seems to be a sticking point currently. A good lot of NG benching is done as well... It's just a plateau I've hit so will need to have a change for a while and it'll soon come back  I'm after as close to 200kg as possible for 2013 on the bench! | ||
| Simeon | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 12:45 |
 tight in the hole Member 2057, 3121 posts SQ 205, BP 140, DL 260605.0 kgs @ 95kgs UnEq | where can you buy the slingshot? | ||
| drew | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 13:26 |
I thought Joplin choked on a sandwich? Member 616, 8404 posts SQ 180, BP 130, DL 220530.0 kgs @ 78.8kgs UnEq | Simeon said:where can you buy the slingshot? http://www.reachfitness.co.uk/flexband.htm is the offical UK supplier, just going to have a google further shane which size did you get? | ||
| shanejer | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 13:42 |
Member 1307, 14110 posts SQ 355, BP 240, DL 370965.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq | drew said: http://www.reachfitness.co.uk/flexband.htm is the offical UK supplier, just going to have a google further shane which size did you get? Xl Mark bell put it on me and benched with him he said was right size. Was a proud moment in my life so I'm telling everyone LOL | ||
| drew | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 13:52 |
I thought Joplin choked on a sandwich? Member 616, 8404 posts SQ 180, BP 130, DL 220530.0 kgs @ 78.8kgs UnEq | sweet, I imagine you have bigger guns than me brah | ||