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| Ben_Something | ... | 03-07-2013 @ 18:52 | |
The legendary Discus Ben Member 1550, 476 posts | I'm not against the idea of the hitching rules suggested, I just don't understand them... I can think of several reasons not to enforce such a rule, but struggle to think of one benefit. It's your comp and you can do what you like, but could you shed some light on the thinking behind it? | ||
| Mark | ... | 03-07-2013 @ 21:02 | |
Member. Member 2171, 1612 posts | If the pinnacle of a the sport allows hitching then Britains should follow that lead IMO. I'm not seeing a benefit of stopping hitching, other than being a detriment to some lifters who hitch. | ||
| Martin_Jones | ... | 03-07-2013 @ 22:46 | |
Member 566, 813 posts SQ 280, BP 175, DL 340795.0 kgs @ 125kgs UnEq | Ben_Something said:I'm not against the idea of the hitching rules suggested, I just don't understand them... I can think of several reasons not to enforce such a rule, but struggle to think of one benefit. It's your comp and you can do what you like, but could you shed some light on the thinking behind it? It pretty simple really. Just perform a clean deadlift without an excessive hitch. The main thing I don't want people doing is resting the bar on their knees or thighs and sitting back, taking a break and jacking the bar up the legs. Its not a deadlift and is very dangerous. Although I'm still interested in peoples thoughts and I would like to be as open as possible. I would rather people ask questions and air their opinions now instead of after the comp. If anyone else doesn't understand what I'm trying to say then please let me know and I will do my very best to explain. Also any questions on others events. | ||
| Martin_Jones | ... | 03-07-2013 @ 22:48 | |
Member 566, 813 posts SQ 280, BP 175, DL 340795.0 kgs @ 125kgs UnEq | Mark said:If the pinnacle of a the sport allows hitching then Britains should follow that lead IMO. I'm not seeing a benefit of stopping hitching, other than being a detriment to some lifters who hitch. I don't think it sends out a good message to newer guys coming into the sport. Should we really be advocating poor form? | ||
| Martin_Jones | ... | 03-07-2013 @ 22:49 | |
Member 566, 813 posts SQ 280, BP 175, DL 340795.0 kgs @ 125kgs UnEq | George_Winston said: But you said no bouncing, so would you not count Loz's british record? Personally I wouldn't give it. But my opinion is not relevant in this instance. | ||
| Martin_Jones | ... | 03-07-2013 @ 22:52 | |
Member 566, 813 posts SQ 280, BP 175, DL 340795.0 kgs @ 125kgs UnEq | George_Winston said:So what if someone like rob framton lifted? (Using him as an example because he cant not hitch due to being shot in the arse or summit) Odd rule If Rob is unable to hitch then surely a no hitch ruling would benefit him, would it not? Or if I've read it wrong and he can only hitch... but I've seen Rob lift on many occasions and think his lifts are fine. | ||
| Martin_Jones | ... | 03-07-2013 @ 23:00 | |
Member 566, 813 posts SQ 280, BP 175, DL 340795.0 kgs @ 125kgs UnEq | http://www.sugdenbarbell.co.uk/forum/Kevin-Nee-comeback-pull-4... I think Kevin's pull here is a good lift!! | ||
| unit94 | ... | 03-07-2013 @ 23:04 | |
what is everyone's fran time? Member 3986, 10452 posts SQ 340, BP 200, DL 400940.0 kgs @ 129kgs Eq | Martin_Jones said: It pretty simple really. Just perform a clean deadlift without an excessive hitch. The main thing I don't want people doing is resting the bar on their knees or thighs and sitting back, taking a break and jacking the bar up the legs. Its not a deadlift and is very dangerous. Although I'm still interested in peoples thoughts and I would like to be as open as possible. I would rather people ask questions and air their opinions now instead of after the comp. If anyone else doesn't understand what I'm trying to say then please let me know and I will do my very best to explain. Also any questions on others events. When you say without excessive hitching what do you mean? Is hitching ok without resting the bar? It just seems to be a grey area. | ||
| Martin_Jones | ... | 03-07-2013 @ 23:07 | |
Member 566, 813 posts SQ 280, BP 175, DL 340795.0 kgs @ 125kgs UnEq | unit94 said: When you say without excessive hitching what do you mean? Is hitching ok without resting the bar? It just seems to be a grey area. Kevin's video above has a little hitch in. I will allow a bit more as long as the bar is moving upwards and does not stop until lock out. | ||
| George_Winston | ... | 03-07-2013 @ 23:08 | |
The Crossfit KingPin Member 941, 1810 posts SQ 230, BP 130, DL 285645.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | In that case i think the confusion comes from you not knowing what a hitch is. Hitching is the re bend of the knees As in powerlifting the rebend of the knees is a no lift So robs and kevin knees lifts would fail in a powerlifting comp And i meant rob can only hitch. So basically no stopping on the knees? I think thats fine and most people will be fine with that | ||
| Mark | ... | 03-07-2013 @ 23:16 | |
Member. Member 2171, 1612 posts | Martin_Jones said: I don't think it sends out a good message to newer guys coming into the sport. Should we really be advocating poor form? I see some awful form in pulls that would pass in powerlifting. If you are judging form then I think this is a poor way to do it. Half the hitches people do are better for your back than what others do without a hitch lol | ||
| LessThanLuke | ... | 03-07-2013 @ 23:16 | |
his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | George_Winston said:In that case i think the confusion comes from you not knowing what a hitch is. Hitching is the re bend of the knees As in powerlifting the rebend of the knees is a no lift So robs and kevin knees lifts would fail in a powerlifting comp And i meant rob can only hitch. So basically no stopping on the knees? I think thats fine and most people will be fine with that This. Kevins lift is a clear hitch. | ||
| Ben_Something | ... | 03-07-2013 @ 23:18 | |
The legendary Discus Ben Member 1550, 476 posts | Martin_Jones said: It pretty simple really. Just perform a clean deadlift without an excessive hitch. The main thing I don't want people doing is resting the bar on their knees or thighs and sitting back, taking a break and jacking the bar up the legs. Its not a deadlift and is very dangerous. Although I'm still interested in peoples thoughts and I would like to be as open as possible. I would rather people ask questions and air their opinions now instead of after the comp. If anyone else doesn't understand what I'm trying to say then please let me know and I will do my very best to explain. Also any questions on others events. Thanks for the response, I can understand if the decision has been made from a safety perspective. I don't personally agree that hitching a dead lift is any more dangerous. But I can't argue with any decision that's made with the athletes safety in mind. | ||
| force10 | ... | 03-07-2013 @ 23:22 | |
Drugs cheat Member 3860, 630 posts SQ 335, BP 210, DL 330875.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Getting away from the fact that im a powerlifter and looking at this rule as a spectator I think its a brave step by the promoter to move the sport of strongman forward. Theres nothing more pleasing than seing someone lift a weight cleanly and gracefully, it really does show more than strength in that competitor. I have to go back to the Englands and the performance for me that stood out above the rest even though he didnt win was Karl Grant, His finese and character really shone through in his clean powerfull lifts and was a real pleasure to watch ! | ||
| Mark | ... | 03-07-2013 @ 23:38 | |
Member. Member 2171, 1612 posts | Great, go enjoy oly lifting and powerlifting. Strongman isn't just about perfect form and strength, it's about grit and sheer determination to complete a lift or an event. Seeing someone fight a battle, whether they get it or not, is just as pleasurable to watch. Knowing that no ounce of energy was left in the tank. Pure effort at its max. It's not meant to be easy, no hitch would mean people doing less than their best (in many cases). I want to see people try their best. | ||
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