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IainKendrickIcon...02-08-2016 @ 10:29 
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ChrisMcCarthy said:
Why look for something that is a) unachievable and b) pretty pointless anyway?


I'd suggest both points are wrong.
IainKendrickIcon...02-08-2016 @ 10:30 
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Steve said:
I think this is where Russia are different to many/most? other countries. There's a big difference IMO between athletes doping and the country not for what ever reason not doing adequate tests and one where the country at governmental level is deliberately manipulating the testing, hiding positives and even bribing athletes.


Indeed
danbaseleyIcon...02-08-2016 @ 16:59 
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It appears the NCAA doping history can be best described as farcical:

http://tinyurl.com/gsarsas

"It’s a school-by-school patchwork of policies and penalties: A first-time steroid infraction would bench a Florida player for half the season but cost a Texas A&M player only a single game. Private schools such as Vanderbilt, meanwhile, aren’t required to share their drug-testing policies with anyone, not even the NCAA."
ChrisMcCarthyIcon...02-08-2016 @ 22:43 
Lost his pen, then found his pen. #phew
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Steve said:
But if athletes are competing in competitions run by the individual sports governing bodies or Internationally they will still fall under USADA/WADA?


Indeed - but most don't, and have no need to...plus they get three or four years of training at arguably one of the most important stages of their careers with probably the finest training facilities as a block known to man and almost entirely out of the reach of any WADA tester - no TUE's, no Whereabouts, none of that "good" stuff.
ChrisMcCarthyIcon...02-08-2016 @ 22:45 
Lost his pen, then found his pen. #phew
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IainKendrick said:
I'd suggest both points are wrong.


Having discussed this with you on here before I suspected you would...but you would agree that the points are, at the least, arguable?

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