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rian1987IconSquats and deadlifts in the same session12-08-2014 @ 23:02 
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Recently I've done squats before deadlifts and I've been feeling a lot stronger and looser for the deadlifts than just doing deadlifts alone. I'm wondering if anyone else does this and what the long term gains have been like.
DrDIcon...13-08-2014 @ 09:42 
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I believe Andy Bolton is a fan of this approach.

It's something I am going to start from next week, so be good to hear opinions also.
IainKendrickIcon...13-08-2014 @ 12:00 
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Yes no problems. Many do.
Benfrancis1993Icon...13-08-2014 @ 12:04 
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Works well. Also works fine the other way around. Just prioritise the weaker movement.

dont do loads of warm up sets on deadlift though!! Your already pretty warmed up
rian1987Icon...13-08-2014 @ 12:56 
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I'm thinking of trying a 170 squat and then 210 for 3 on the deadlift afterwards on Friday. Sets for the deadlift 60 for 5, 100 for 3, 140 for 1,180 for 1 and then up to 210? Would them jumps be okay, max is around 230 at moment.
SimonDIcon...13-08-2014 @ 18:27 
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It makes a lot of sense from a powerlifting point of view as you will be pulling after having squatted, so training like that will get your body used to it should you want to compete in powerlifting
AdamTIcon...13-08-2014 @ 19:48 
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Squat bench and deadlift same session twice a week. Do another day devoted to more bodybuilding/assistance work. I'm getting good gains though that's probably because I am weak and more is better for my level. I class myself as intermediate. But compared to a lot on here im certainly a novice/beginner.
EllD90Icon...13-08-2014 @ 19:54 
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I think volume has to be stepped down when doing both in one session.

My back used to be noticeably fatigued going from deadlift to squat.

And quads used to be pretty fatigued going from squats to deadlift.

So just bear that in mind.
KevC86Icon...13-08-2014 @ 21:32 
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rian1987 said:I'm thinking of trying a 170 squat and then 210 for 3 on the deadlift afterwards on Friday. Sets for the deadlift 60 for 5, 100 for 3, 140 for 1,180 for 1 and then up to 210? Would them jumps be okay, max is around 230 at moment.


I'd consider that more than adequate warm up, personally I wouldn't do nearly that much if I'd squatted first.

As for doing both in the same session, I tried it for a while, but found myself struggling with whatever exercise I had second, that said, if you aren't planning to max the 2nd exercise, but rather get some speed work in, or sets in the 3 - 5 range, then I think it can work.
PAGANIcon...13-08-2014 @ 21:48 
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I always liked deads followed by squats...with strict presses inbetween. Basically my ideal weights session.
JonA81Icon...14-08-2014 @ 09:38 
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rian1987 said:I'm thinking of trying a 170 squat and then 210 for 3 on the deadlift afterwards on Friday. Sets for the deadlift 60 for 5, 100 for 3, 140 for 1,180 for 1 and then up to 210? Would them jumps be okay, max is around 230 at moment.


Id start at around bodyweight, anything less is too light to be worth doing.
The_Lone_WolfIcon...14-08-2014 @ 10:02 
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It can be done as long as you plan it out intelligently and know your own body.
Dan_EvansIcon...17-08-2014 @ 17:35 
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I've been squatting and deadlifting heavy in the same session, before and since being coached by Tom. I love it, as my deads always seem to better after squatting, even if I'm lifting close to max. I believe that I've progressed reasonably well.
PhillippeHalterIcon...17-08-2014 @ 17:42 
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This is a fantastic way of training IMHO

Far too often in the past I haven't warmed up properly for deadlifts and therefore not performed at my best... Do that a few too many times and it can either lead to injury or at the very least less than great progression

Squats before deadlifts completely take this issue out for lots if reasons


The only thing left is relative poundages for either on any given day which your coach decides

Keep up the good work!
JohnGymIcon...17-06-2017 @ 11:10 
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rian1987 said:I'm thinking of trying a 170 squat and then 210 for 3 on the deadlift afterwards on Friday. Sets for the deadlift 60 for 5, 100 for 3, 140 for 1,180 for 1 and then up to 210? Would them jumps be okay, max is around 230 at moment.


Ok

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