Jim Wendler Article

OwenL said:Who wants to be strong and fat, when you can be strong and ripped? Silly man

AdamT said:Im doing his 5/3/1 programme, im not normally the best for sticking to a program, but i genuinely enjoy this one, easy to follow and im beating a lot of rep pb.

Hywel said:
Me too, 5/3/1 has helped my pbs out no end, I'm 16 cycles in

walker said:
Can you be as strong as you can be ripped though?

OwenL said:
i once was fat (95kg) and moderately strong (for age and stuff), Im now lighter, less BF and stronger.
Fat dont lift weights, muscle does If i was 95kg at 10% bf (around the BF i am now) then yes, id be stronger. But thats not being fat
Does that even answer your question? I dont even know. But yes.
If you dont care about bodyfat %'s then yes, eat loads because calories + rest + training = strength gains.

milsy said:I was given this article on a print out when I started training at that point I didn't even know who wendler was at that point but reading that was a turning point in my training

I think things wendler says should be taken with a pinch of salt I spoke to him on facebook pm and he was sound just seemed abit argumentative with strong opinions we didn't even talk about lifting and he came across that way

AdamT said:
Extra weight on top of muscle will always be benifical for strength, but obviously some people can still put on more muscle while losing weight, so will probably therefore be stronger than before

OwenL said:
Yeah true, but i dont think being heavy as fook will answer all your strength questions. If the only way to get stronger is to get fat as f**k, id address other issues with your training.
You may then reach a point where its necessary to bulk like hell to get strength increases, but i think that average Joe thinks that "oh hes heavier so he can lift more" not necessarily.
I say "you" i dont mean YOU lool, i mean people in general.
I certainly fell into the trap of "im a powerlifter, i can eat loads" (in my powerlifting days lol) and i didnt gain a great deal. Now im far fitter, and faster and stronger

brownbear said:
All the Internet authors (who all say f**k the intrernet ironically) seem to create a name by being unnecessarily argumentative

VanillaGorilla said:
No they f**king don't.

AdamT said:
Well look at some of the strong guys on this board that dont weigh much. Shows you can still be very strong while being extra lean. However a lot of people have to diet hard and do loads of cardio to get lean, so they will lose strength if getting lean is their priorty.

OwenL said:
I know, i think i tried to say that. I lose my direction when i answer questions on here and ramble on saying other crap lol
And yeah they will, but what if they lost weight slower? Less of a calorie deficit - less strength loss? Maybe.
Depends how quick they want to get lean i guess.

OwenL said:
Yeah true, but i dont think being heavy as fook will answer all your strength questions. If the only way to get stronger is to get fat as f**k, id address other issues with your training.
You may then reach a point where its necessary to bulk like hell to get strength increases, but i think that average Joe thinks that "oh hes heavier so he can lift more" not necessarily.
I say "you" i dont mean YOU lool, i mean people in general.
I certainly fell into the trap of "im a powerlifter, i can eat loads" (in my powerlifting days lol) and i didnt gain a great deal. Now im far fitter, and faster and stronger