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TerminatorIcon...07-07-2011 @ 19:26 
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milsy said:if you wanna gain wieght

get a large stuff crust pizza soak olive oil into it you will be surprised how much the pizza soaks up then add 1 tin of tuna and some more cheese throw on a pot of sour cream and there you go you got calories for days


as for taste? depends how committed you are to gaining wieght


i went from 76kg to 105+ in the space of about 18months so i know a few good tips and once you got the mass there your lifts will go up just dont let your body fat go too high


yikes! i thought 76kg to 90 kg in 18 months was good going
milsyIcon...07-07-2011 @ 19:30 
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i put alot of it down to genetics i think if i had never even taken up powerlifting i would of still ended up around 15-16 stone just not as muscular because one of my cousins filled out between age of 18 and 20 and he is a stocky guy to say he doesnt train
Beard_Of_IronIcon...07-07-2011 @ 20:28 
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Terminator said:
with all the milk, steak and eggs i consume, i'm pretty sure my saturated fat intake is well above the recommended level, so wouldn't olive oil saturated fats make the situtation even worse?


Well, first of all olive oil is only 13% saturated fat so in a tablespoon you're only getting 2g saturated fat.

Secondly, while people tend to equate animal fat = saturated fat, this is far from being the case. In regular supermarket (grain fed) meat less than half the fat in meat/poultry is going to be saturated, if the meat is free range / grass fed then the saturated fat will be lower (as will the overall fat levels).

Eggs are about 30% saturated even if they are from caged hens.

Dairy products tend to be higher in saturated fats, certainly, but even that's not going to be more than 60ish% saturated. Higher than meat for sure but it's not ALL saturated.

So you're probably taking in less saturates than you think, and olive oil is sufficiently low in saturated fats to improve the saturates-to-non saturates ratio you intake, rather than worsen it.

Saying that you want to avoid olive oil because it's got saturated fat in it (which you're already eating) is like saying you want to avoid eating fruit because it's got sugar in it.

And when you say 'recommended amount', whose recommendation are you taking? The GDA says 20g of saturated fat a day if I recall correctly, but that's in the context of a 2000 calorie diet (which also has just 45g of protein) - that recommendation certainly wouldn't apply to someone who weight trains and is trying to get bigger.

The higher fat diet 'gurus' (Di Pasquale, Poliquin and also the higher fat intake bodybuilders like John Meadows) recommend in the range of 40-50% of your fats to be saturated on a moderate fat diet, and if you are on a higher fat lower carb diet, possibly higher.

If you get the bulk of your fats from good quality meat and eggs then I think it'd be difficult for your saturated fat ratio to be unbalanced (and there is no evidence of a high saturated fat intake causing health problems, in fact if anything the reverse has been shown to be true). Anyway you'd have to drink pints of cream or something and take in no other fats for this to happen.

So eat your steak and eggs, cover your essential fats (fish oil omega 3s etc) and if you eat lots of full fat dairy as well then balance this with the less saturated olive oil, nuts, peanut butter etc - and you'll be fine.
Beard_Of_IronIcon...07-07-2011 @ 20:36 
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Steve said:
I have no idea how the average man or woman on the street is suposed to know what is right or wrong to eat.


But for the average man/woman on the street, aren't "the basics" all that's required for a reasonably healthy balanced diet?

Regardless of which newspaper/magazine/internet forum the non-training population refers to for nutrition advice, I would think every source agrees on a few basic principles:
- junk food, sweets, soft drinks and excessive drinking are bad for you
- your carbohydrates should be from whole grains rather than the refined sort (e.g. wholegrain seeded bread vs cheap white bread)
- eat protein every meal
- keep your meat and dairy reasonably low in fat (while the fat's not necessarily bad, this does keep the calories down)
- eat fish or some omega3 source a few times a week
- you should eat lots of fruit and vegetables ("5 a day" - though this is quite a low recommendation)

On top of that they all recommend some form of daily exercise even if it's just a walk.

To improve the health and waistline of the non training population, all they need to do is follow these rules.. beyond that I doubt whether cooking in butter vs cooking in sunflower oil is going to make a massive difference to their wellbeing unless it composes a major part of their diet.
SteveIcon...07-07-2011 @ 22:03 
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Beard_Of_Iron said:
But for the average man/woman on the street, aren't "the basics" all that's required for a reasonably healthy balanced diet?
Regardless of which newspaper/magazine/internet forum the non-training population refers to for nutrition advice, I would think every source agrees on a few basic principles:
- junk food, sweets, soft drinks and excessive drinking are bad for you
- your carbohydrates should be from whole grains rather than the refined sort (e.g. wholegrain seeded bread vs cheap white bread)
- eat protein every meal
- keep your meat and dairy reasonably low in fat (while the fat's not necessarily bad, this does keep the calories down)
- eat fish or some omega3 source a few times a week
- you should eat lots of fruit and vegetables ("5 a day" - though this is quite a low recommendation)
On top of that they all recommend some form of daily exercise even if it's just a walk.
To improve the health and waistline of the non training population, all they need to do is follow these rules.. beyond that I doubt whether cooking in butter vs cooking in sunflower oil is going to make a massive difference to their wellbeing unless it composes a major part of their diet.


With little to no effort you could however find experts who disagree with many of the above

Experts recommend low fat, low carb, whole grains, no grains, dairy , no dairy, lots of fruit, limited fruit, vegetarianism as healthy, vegetarianism as unhealthy....

Perhaps the average person in the street probably is the wrong example, as given the increasing fatness of the general population I guess most simply don't care. However if you look into it at all it is possible to find so many contradictory views (from well qualified experts, not just gym experts) it is very difficult to know what is actually wrong or right.
CuddlesIcon...08-07-2011 @ 11:20 
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I used to know someone who drank 250ml of olive oil and 250ml of lemon juioe as a sort of detox/colon cleanse.

f**k that s**t.
ThingIcon...08-07-2011 @ 11:58 
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i add olive oil to my tuna shakes a desert spoon or 2 and thats enough.

Udo oil is good but expensive
TerminatorIcon...08-07-2011 @ 12:02 
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I made 700 ml of milk + 2 table spoons peanut butter + 1 scoop whey + 50 ml olive oil last night before bed

wasn't that bad imo
Little_MikeIcon...08-07-2011 @ 13:06 
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get some fish and chips down your neck Grin
leeboyIcon...09-07-2011 @ 17:14 
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what is a good amount to have about half a shot a day ok?
JackRevansIcon...09-07-2011 @ 17:18 
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animal fat is allways better
leeboyIcon...09-07-2011 @ 17:21 
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is fish oil or olive oil better?
JackRevansIcon...09-07-2011 @ 17:23 
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leeboy said:is fish oil or olive oil better?


fish oil is way better
gossamerIcon...10-07-2011 @ 18:03 
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I put quite a bit on me salads.
Funky_monkeyIcon...31-07-2011 @ 13:14 
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I get it for free a couple of times a year so it's in ready supply - cook with it, add it to salads, homemade burgers, dip your bread in it, fry chips in it - very healthy stuff and fine to add to shakes - tablespoon doesn't really affect the flavour at all and provides more kcals and healthy fats.

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