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jones105Icon.....21-01-2013 @ 22:56 
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martinb said:
So he clicked your neck
Next time he does the strength tests, be honest with yourself, they aren't real
They change the angle that they apply the pressure to CON you
I spent thousands on chiro. Not that I'm f**king bitter.
IT'S NOT REAL

Prof?
Look,iv bin f**ked around for 2yrs with nhs not that I'm bitter! I had to try somthing and was advised by many to try a chiro...I'm fully aware that is just joint manipulation etc etc..

Yes u got a point,he told me that in certain positions I have more stabilty etc etc...but there tests were don on both sides,and my right side is weaker..which I knew befor hand

Just to add,I had a sports massage a few weeks back,(back,shoulders and neck)he also picked up on the tension in my back,shoulders..both can't be wrong!
drewIcon...21-01-2013 @ 22:59 
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jones105 said:
I would just advise pple to to see a chiro first..


I work for the NHS. I firmly believe it to be only a force for good in this world. It frustrates me greatly when it gets bad mouthed for whatever reason as the other party never gets to defend themselves and broadly speaking, people like to moan about what they feel they are entitled too. Furthermore i cannot be bothered to get into a tit for tat debate about why you should be great full for the 2 years of what was in your opinion 'wasted' time. Primarily as I'm off to bed, so I'm fresh to waste other people's time tomorrow Wink

The only thing I will say is I'd hope people wouldn't take your above advice. It's atrocious. Never see a chiro first
martinbIcon...21-01-2013 @ 23:06 
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jones105 said:
Prof?
Look,iv bin f**ked around for 2yrs with nhs not that I'm bitter! I had to try somthing and was advised by many to try a chiro...I'm fully aware that is just joint manipulation etc etc..
Yes u got a point,he told me that in certain positions I have more stabilty etc etc...but there tests were don on both sides,and my right side is weaker..which I knew befor hand
Just to add,I had a sports massage a few weeks back,(back,shoulders and neck)he also picked up on the tension in my back,shoulders..both can't be wrong!


Sounds just like me in my early 20s, bad back, struggled to tie my shoelaces for at least a year, I was desperate.

So I overlooked things cause I felt a bit better, and I handed over £30 a session sometimes 3 a week.

Then after a long time of no progress, I started looking in to it, and its bulls**t

Everyone will call him doctor, he's not a doctor.

Im not saying there isn't something wrong with you, I'm saying him laying hands on you won't fix it

I'm just trying to save you cash thats all
jones105Icon......21-01-2013 @ 23:12 
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drew said:
I work for the NHS. I firmly believe it to be only a force for good in this world. It frustrates me greatly when it gets bad mouthed for whatever reason as the other party never gets to defend themselves and broadly speaking, people like to moan about what they feel they are entitled too. Furthermore i cannot be bothered to get into a tit for tat debate about why you should be great full for the 2 years of what was in your opinion 'wasted' time. Primarily as I'm off to bed, so I'm fresh to waste other people's time tomorrow Wink
The only thing I will say is I'd hope people wouldn't take your above advice. It's atrocious. Never see a chiro first


Its the fact that I'm complaining about what I'm entitled to.the fact that 7 doctors could not be f**king arsed with me is the problem...if all the scans aint showing anything,u look at different possibilites...
The one who wanted to operate on me couldn't evan explain to me properly what the operation would do and how it would wrk!

1 out of the 7 doctors had a feel around,the first doctor told me I had arthrius,another told me nothing is wrong.lol

What ever part of the nhs u wrk for mate,this is not aimed at u so don't get funny with me,I'm entitled to my say.I have family who wrk as nurses and they agree with me,well some pointsWink
jones105Icon.....21-01-2013 @ 23:17 
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martinb said:
Sounds just like me in my early 20s, bad back, struggled to tie my shoelaces for at least a year, I was desperate.
So I overlooked things cause I felt a bit better, and I handed over £30 a session sometimes 3 a week.
Then after a long time of no progress, I started looking in to it, and its bulls**t
Everyone will call him doctor, he's not a doctor.
Im not saying there isn't something wrong with you, I'm saying him laying hands on you won't fix it
I'm just trying to save you cash thats all


I do apriciate ur comments martin...and after what u have said I'm guna look into more...I didn't put this on here to argue with any one

Just to share my experience...I have been hospitalised for other things,on 2 occations and can't fault the nursing staff and other on the ward...

Let's just say I'm pist at the doctors iv seen,not the nhsHappy
martinbIcon...21-01-2013 @ 23:21 
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jones105 said:
I do apriciate ur comments martin...and after what u have said I'm guna look into more...I didn't put this on here to argue with any one
Just to share my experience...I have been hospitalised for other things,on 2 occations and can't fault the nursing staff and other on the ward...
Let's just say I'm pist at the doctors iv seen,not the nhsHappy


Sorry I wasn't trying to argue either, its just I used to recommend chiro to everyone and feel bad for that now, I like to redress the balance and tell people to research it
walkerIcon...21-01-2013 @ 23:33 
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The NHS is like anything else, its a lottery on which Dr/Consultant you'll get to see. I do think they do a great job though and shouldn't be dismissed so easily.

I had a grade 3 AC joint separation in Sept 2010. Unfortunately at Rotherham hospital I saw a Consultant whose specialist area was hips. I was discharged with no surgery, physio or treatment. I was less than impressed with said Consultant who explained naff all to me. After 6 months of niggling pain and weakness I referred myself back through my GP to Barnsley requesting a shoulder (not f**king hip!) specialist. This time I was sent for more xrays and an MRI, and then my new Consultant discussed my injury and the options.. I could've opted for surgery with the procedure explained to me, but due to my young(ish) age he wanted to avoid it if possible, as did I, so I was sent for a cortisone injection into my shoulder. Now this worked! Since this in August I have experienced little discomfort and my strength has obviously come back, as I'm now stronger than ever. However, I do feel my shoulders are weaker and lagging behind because of my injury.

Anyway, after boring you, the above shows both a good and bad experience! They were amazing at the Maternity ward at Barnsley too Grin
jones105Icon.....21-01-2013 @ 23:35 
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martinb said:
Sorry I wasn't trying to argue either, its just I used to recommend chiro to everyone and feel bad for that now, I like to redress the balance and tell people to research it


Got me curious now lol...looking at a few sites,and generaly geting mixed answers/views...most saying it helped their posture! Others say its fake.

I suppose with all altunative medicen it may wrk for sum,but not for others...only other option I got now is physio! But don't they do simialr things
walkerIcon...21-01-2013 @ 23:38 
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jones105 said:
Got me curious now lol...looking at a few sites,and generaly geting mixed answers/views...most saying it helped their posture! Others say its fake.
I suppose with all altunative medicen it may wrk for sum,but not for others...only other option I got now is physio! But don't they do simialr things


Physios help rehabilitation after injury, worth seeing one I reckon.
jones105Icon.....21-01-2013 @ 23:53 
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walker said:The NHS is like anything else, its a lottery on which Dr/Consultant you'll get to see. I do think they do a great job though and shouldn't be dismissed so easily.

I had a grade 3 AC joint separation in Sept 2010. Unfortunately at Rotherham hospital I saw a Consultant whose specialist area was hips. I was discharged with no surgery, physio or treatment. I was less than impressed with said Consultant who explained naff all to me. After 6 months of niggling pain and weakness I referred myself back through my GP to Barnsley requesting a shoulder (not f**king hip!) specialist. This time I was sent for more xrays and an MRI, and then my new Consultant discussed my injury and the options.. I could've opted for surgery with the procedure explained to me, but due to my young(ish) age he wanted to avoid it if possible, as did I, so I was sent for a cortisone injection into my shoulder. Now this worked! Since this in August I have experienced little discomfort and my strength has obviously come back, as I'm now stronger than ever. However, I do feel my shoulders are weaker and lagging behind because of my injury.

Anyway, after boring you, the above shows both a good and bad experience! They were amazing at the Maternity ward at Barnsley too Grin


Think you hit the nail on the head there mate.I think I need to put it down to a bad experence...iv had 2 shots,1 in 2011,and 1 back in may last year,both wrked great.last doctor I seen,wouldn't advise it,and didn't knw that I had 2!

Think I may got back to my gp and get a refural..

Defo look at seeing a physio.finish treatment with this chiro first
walkerIcon...22-01-2013 @ 00:01 
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jones105 said:
Think you hit the nail on the head there mate.I think I need to put it down to a bad experence...iv had 2 shots,1 in 2011,and 1 back in may last year,both wrked great.last doctor I seen,wouldn't advise it,and didn't knw that I had 2!
Think I may got back to my gp and get a refural..
Defo look at seeing a physio.finish treatment with this chiro first


I would mate, and make sure you insist on seeing a shoulder specialist. With 'choices' you can decide on which hospital you want to be treated at so may be worthwhile doing some research..

Physio is good too, and my GP said she could prescribe it so you'd get it for free, but as I'd already had it through work and was still feeling pain I declined.
drewIcon...22-01-2013 @ 07:56 
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I'm not personally offended at all and I'm glad you've had some good experiences

As I'm sure you can imagine it gets tiresome when some people say the old...

The NHS sucks
Pensions suck
Had to wait this long

Type of stuff. If they knew how much it would cost them if it was private they would be as great full as a man could be. The number of people who moan at me when I'm on night shift that it 5am puzzles me, as apparently they're sleepy etc and want to be left alone. Then don't come to bloody a+e I want to be left alone too



The gold standard for your care would be seeing a consultant surgeon who loves shoulders, either then them giving you treatment or referring you to an advanced scope physio for rehab

Without a doubt you will h e imbalances and anyone who reads the Internet will be able to tell you this, they will understand what's going on though and have the experience and ability to treat it

On your own back I'd take what the chiro said and look at websites like Eric cressey and try and find out what he suggests. He is a physio style American who spends a lot of time fixing baseball players f**ked up shoulders and to my eye he seems to know his s**t

All the best with your recovery
ThingIcon...22-01-2013 @ 08:31 
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i've had my fair share of treatments for my back. but this if the flow of events

Doctor - diagnosis - outcome - Physical exam
My local GP - Pulled muscle - Parracetamol - No
My local GP - Trapped Nerve - Anti Flams and Parracetamol - No
My local GO - Refered to Pain Clinic at Hospital - Cortisone injections - no
Pain clinic - Facet Joint pain in the right side lower lumbar reigon - no
Pain clinic - Facet Joint pain in the right side lower lumbar reigon - no
Pain clinic - Facet Joint pain in the right side lower lumbar reigon - no
Reffered to Specialist in Aberdeen - Facet Joint - MRI - No
Aberdeen Doc - Slight bulge in L4/L5 Disc Disc spacing normal - fry the nerve in the facet joint - no
Aberdeen doc - as before - radio frequency neutronomy - yes
Aberdeen doc - as before - radio frequency neutronomy - yes

now i'm currently waitining for my next appointment un june but trying to private so it gets done quicker.

now i have been through various treatments like Pilates, Rolfing, A.R.T, Chrio manipulation.
the best so far is the ART combined with Joint manipulation. i get alot of releif out of the ART and SI Joint and Luber manipulation stuff.

i think its a case of finding out what works best and i have found that. by the sounds of martin he was taken for a ride and now resents chiros. as for jones he is tryining to find what works.
As for drew he standing up for somethinh he believes works.

IMO the NHS and the waitining times are stretched to f**k and its at breaking point.
bruceIcon...22-01-2013 @ 09:15 
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Post Edited: 22.01.2013 @ 09:17 AM by bruce
I'm seeing a chiro now £20 a session, I'm only seeing them to get the treatment the nhs told me to get but quick, it has taken 3 month on a waiting list to be be offered the same treatment and I don't want to wait that long, but 9 months in total since I first went(and I told them the exact diagonsis at the start) I do feel the care I got from the nhs was mixed some good some dog s**t, I also work in the nhs and its only because I new what I needed and how to ask for it that I even got as far as I have, I'm pretty sure if I didn't I would have been sacked off.

The trouble with research is that the research is alway biased anyone who says chiro is s**t and don't work will be a doctor or Physio, and the ones that says its good will be a chiro. I think if u think it is working then stick to it till u don't think it is, however I would alway say see a doctor/Physio first, I am only seeing one as a last resort. And everyone is after ur money chiros/nhs are no different
jones105Icon.....22-01-2013 @ 10:07 
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bruce said:I'm seeing a chiro now £20 a session, I'm only seeing them to get the treatment the nhs told me to get but quick, it has taken 3 month on a waiting list to be be offered the same treatment and I don't want to wait that long, but 9 months in total since I first went(and I told them the exact diagonsis at the start) I do feel the care I got from the nhs was mixed some good some dog s**t, I also work in the nhs and its only because I new what I needed and how to ask for it that I even got as far as I have, I'm pretty sure if I didn't I would have been sacked off.

The trouble with research is that the research is alway biased anyone who says chiro is s**t and don't work will be a doctor or Physio, and the ones that says its good will be a chiro. I think if u think it is working then stick to it till u don't think it is, however I would alway say see a doctor/Physio first, I am only seeing one as a last resort. And everyone is after ur money chiros/nhs are no different

I agree with u mate,I just feel I am being fobed off an its not right.I'm guna stick with this chiro for now,defo get a physio

Drew,every thing u mentioned iv done mate.iv told them I'm not happy and requested physio,second opinions and getting now we're lol.
Think I'll try the GP and ask them to refur me...

Iv looked up chiro's on net and found mixed reviews.a lot saying the have helped with back and posture etc...some saying its bollax..

Trial and error realy

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