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MasterTIcon...17-06-2011 @ 20:20 
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Todays efforts

Squat - Belt and knee sleeves

60 x 10
140 x 5
220 x 5
260 x 5
280 x 5
300 x 5

I realise this mimics last fridays training, however I was not happy with my top set as I lost form on a couple of reps. I tend not to move on until I can do them properly.

Heavy Bench

60 x 10
100 x 5
140 x 5
180 x 5
200 x 5
210 x 3 x 2 sets - short arms are great a times!!!

Deadlift

140 x 5
220 x 3
260 x 3
300 x 3
320 x 3
330 x 3

Very hard indeed, one more week of this training to go and I can back off the heavy iron somewhat.
lil_leeIcon...17-06-2011 @ 22:27 
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i also did this but mind you its deload week for me...
SimeonIcon...17-06-2011 @ 22:41 
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MasterT said:
Bottom of the squat
Pause squats
Box Squats
Good mornings


Got a couple of questions about good mornings as I'm always a little uncertain about them, if that's alright. Should I perform them arch backed? should my foot placement be the same as for my squat? how far down should I go? And roughly what poundage should I use considering I've got a max squat of 185.

They're just one of those exercises that have never quite felt right for me.
JCIcon...18-06-2011 @ 11:01 
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ReevesyIcon...18-06-2011 @ 13:16 
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Simeon said:
Got a couple of questions about good mornings as I'm always a little uncertain about them, if that's alright. Should I perform them arch backed? should my foot placement be the same as for my squat? how far down should I go? And roughly what poundage should I use considering I've got a max squat of 185.
They're just one of those exercises that have never quite felt right for me.


i stand the same as squat stance, bend ur legs only slightly, rotate only ur hips throughout the movement though, i think. and ya arch ur back.
MasterTIcon...18-06-2011 @ 14:49 
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Simeon said:
Got a couple of questions about good mornings as I'm always a little uncertain about them, if that's alright. Should I perform them arch backed? should my foot placement be the same as for my squat? how far down should I go? And roughly what poundage should I use considering I've got a max squat of 185.
They're just one of those exercises that have never quite felt right for me.


You should always keep your back tight, not just on good mornings but on any lift you are performing.

Feet in squat stance egs slightly bent, hips back rather than bending down. You should come down to above parallel to prevent bar roll and drive the hips forward on the lift.
SimeonIcon...18-06-2011 @ 14:54 
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MasterT said:
You should always keep your back tight, not just on good mornings but on any lift you are performing.
Feet in squat stance egs slightly bent, hips back rather than bending down. You should come down to above parallel to prevent bar roll and drive the hips forward on the lift.


Thanks! That's how I've been doing them so I guess I'll keep at it and focus driving through with my hips
1369philIcon...18-06-2011 @ 19:30 
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Ok then - would you structure the training something like :

3 - 4 days per week, 2 of which have a squat and a deadlift in the same session - one being "competition" style and another working on mesocycles for weak areas ?

The other 1-2 sessions would be less back and hip intensive with more emphasis on benching (with benching also done on sq/dl days too) - you've mentioned liking dips, cleans and o-head stuff ... anything else you'd put in there ?

How many exercises per session ?

Could you outline a sample program ? (exercises, sets and reps)
MasterTIcon...18-06-2011 @ 23:26 
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Post Edited: 19.06.2011 @ 10:36 AM by MasterT
1369phil said:Ok then - would you structure the training something like :

3 - 4 days per week, 2 of which have a squat and a deadlift in the same session - one being "competition" style and another working on mesocycles for weak areas ?

The other 1-2 sessions would be less back and hip intensive with more emphasis on benching (with benching also done on sq/dl days too) - you've mentioned liking dips, cleans and o-head stuff ... anything else you'd put in there ?

How many exercises per session ?

Could you outline a sample program ? (exercises, sets and reps)


No, training should always be based around functionality for a sport.

You have asked for an awful lot of information to be honest.

If your sport is powerlifting then your training needs to be primarily based around the three lifts with assistance work (and this is only work that assists the primary lifts) at all times.

What you need to consider for a training cycle is correct execution of a lift – now while it is possible, probably likely you can lift more than you can in good form the consideration is will you be limited in reaching your overall maximum possible weight? – The answer is usually yes.

So in construction, if you are (using bench press as an example) performing three sessions roughly broken down into a heavy day (1-3 reps), a speed day (low reps multiple sets) or a moderate rep day you need to not necessarily take what your maximum lift is overall, but what your maximum lift is maintaining good form then take the prescribed percentage within that range.
WiegieboardIcon...18-06-2011 @ 23:39 
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MasterT said:

I realise this mimics last fridays training, however I was not happy with my top set as I lost form on a couple of reps. I tend not to move on until I can do them properly.



I respect this work ethic. It's what I believe should be done also.
nickIcon...19-06-2011 @ 00:32 
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Wayne_CowdreyIcon...19-06-2011 @ 00:42 
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1369philIcon...19-06-2011 @ 10:54 
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MasterT said:

You have asked for an awful lot of information to be honest.



Apologies - Looking at your previous posts I presumed you'd be happy to pass on your opinions.
drewIcon...19-06-2011 @ 10:59 
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1369phil said:
Apologies - Looking at your previous posts I presumed you'd be happy to pass on your opinions.


I think it was more the openness of your question which was an issue rather than him not wanting to divulge his 'secrets'. Try asking something more specific I bet he'd help. He seems to know his shizzle
MasterTIcon...19-06-2011 @ 15:38 
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1369phil said:
Apologies - Looking at your previous posts I presumed you'd be happy to pass on your opinions.


I need far more specifics than you have given to give you an educated response really. All I could offer is very generic information with the information provided.

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