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JC		...	14-06-2011 @ 21:30
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335 850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq	MasterT said:One full clean, a front squat, a power jerk - catch behind neck, a squat and heels down power jerk is a rep - silly I know but what you gonna do. 140 on all the above.....awesome; very strong

Wigan		...	15-06-2011 @ 08:49
a cynical old scrote Member 68, 6955 posts SQ 255, BP 132.5, DL 250 637.5 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq	Almost unbelievable

MasterT		...	15-06-2011 @ 21:28
Member 2509, 123 posts SQ 335, BP 237.5, DL 380 952.5 kgs @ 106.4kgs UnEq	It's not overly difficult aside on the lungs really. Sadly my technique does leave something to be desired and I tend to lift a lot with strength which makes it a little more bearable for me - and is also the reason why my training is close to my maximums I don't have superb technique to propel me much further at this stage. I decided to have tonight off after spending most of the day working and demonstrating lifts to others.

Paul_D		...	15-06-2011 @ 21:33
Hey mate, my name is Paul Dudley Member 632, 3628 posts SQ 200, BP 155, DL 282.5 637.5 kgs @ 77kgs UnEq

MrSmall		...	15-06-2011 @ 21:41
Gone and easily forgotten....... Member 331, 22298 posts SQ 185, BP 100, DL 230 515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 15.06.2011 @ 21:43 PM by MrSmall There's a video of an untrained in the olympic lifts american guy doing the same complex with 140k, Tom Mutaffis, he posts here sometimes. It's a popular crossfit one actually, a few guys have done it with that sort of weight. So for a beastly strong guy with olympic lifting experience can't see much problem with that. Can't imagine our Marko having much difficulty with that, or Mike Howarth, or one man band Trav, etc. No offence to MasterT! heres that vid not trying to say its easy or anything, but I don't think he has reason to BS with his log entries.

MasterT		...	15-06-2011 @ 21:59
Member 2509, 123 posts SQ 335, BP 237.5, DL 380 952.5 kgs @ 106.4kgs UnEq	MrSmall said:There's a video of an untrained in the olympic lifts american guy doing the same complex with 140k, Tom Mutaffis, he posts here sometimes. It's a popular crossfit one actually, a few guys have done it with that sort of weight. So for a beastly strong guy with olympic lifting experience can't see much problem with that. Can't imagine our Marko having much difficulty with that, or Mike Howarth, or one man band Trav, etc. No offence to MasterT! heres that vid not trying to say its easy or anything, but I don't think he has reason to BS with his log entries. He is push pressing his too, very impressive and nice to see someone else doing it. It's quite common in Aus to see complexes done when short of time - they are a workout unto themselves and good fun from time to time.

1369phil		...	16-06-2011 @ 15:03
doesnt work hard enough in the gym Member 1492, 2138 posts SQ 170, BP 145, DL 195 510.0 kgs @ 112kgs UnEq	I'm going to assume you're on the level and ask about your training. Assuming you are as legitimately strong as your numbers suggest - how do you structure your training - what have you done to get there - what would you suggest for powerlifters/strongmen on here ? You seem to be doing three lifts (or variants) every powerlifting type session, which most would consider a beginner/intermediate type of program. (5x5/Texas method type)

MasterT		...	16-06-2011 @ 18:57
Member 2509, 123 posts SQ 335, BP 237.5, DL 380 952.5 kgs @ 106.4kgs UnEq	1369phil said:I'm going to assume you're on the level and ask about your training. Assuming you are as legitimately strong as your numbers suggest - how do you structure your training - what have you done to get there - what would you suggest for powerlifters/strongmen on here ? You seem to be doing three lifts (or variants) every powerlifting type session, which most would consider a beginner/intermediate type of program. (5x5/Texas method type) I train in a very basic fashion, I strongly believe most people overcomplicate training methods. Simply put whatever area I consider weak in a lift be it portion of the lift, technique and execution etc I target and base my meso-cycles around that. Since starting on here my training has been at the culmination of an eight week meso-cycle which has targeted some areas I was not happy with. Training will adjust accordingly after a couple of bridge weeks. What do you see the problem being in performing the lifts you would normally do in a competition? If anything people do not do them enough and are lazy.

MasterT		...	16-06-2011 @ 20:50
Member 2509, 123 posts SQ 335, BP 237.5, DL 380 952.5 kgs @ 106.4kgs UnEq	Another extremely busy day has resulted in no training - I just love the M25 &rt;:-(

1369phil		...	17-06-2011 @ 06:28
doesnt work hard enough in the gym Member 1492, 2138 posts SQ 170, BP 145, DL 195 510.0 kgs @ 112kgs UnEq	I've been reading through your posts - one of the issues I've always had with "weak point" training is that I'm just generally weak - it's all a weak point ! I guess if I was being a bit less general I could say, bottom of the squat - mid shin on deads and 4-6 inches off the chest for the bench. So pause squats might be useful - a small board on the bench and mid shin deads ?? Would you structure your upper body(bench) training like you suggested with the squat (one heavy day and light back off followed by one faster day with f/squats) - maybe heavy bench and light overheads followed by speed with dips/push press maybe ? What about the deadlift ? Do you think cleans have a place in a powerlifting routine ? What about overhead work ? What about complexes and other "conditioning" stuff ? Many questions - hope you dont mind !

Fatpete		...	17-06-2011 @ 07:13
Hyper obese Pete Member 70, 19476 posts SQ 322.5, BP 205, DL 300 827.5 kgs @ 133kgs Eq	MasterT said:Another extremely busy day has resulted in no training - I just love the M25 &rt;:-( M25 eh ? that's a real motorway and we know where it is. Is it a bluff or is it a slip ? I'm sure a secretive fellow like yourself would never reveal the real name of a road used. May I suggest that you just use M9876 for all roads to avoid confusion.

Wigan		...	17-06-2011 @ 11:12
a cynical old scrote Member 68, 6955 posts SQ 255, BP 132.5, DL 250 637.5 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq	MasterT said: There are a few lads capable of 200+ C & J and it’s not uncommon to see a 160+ snatch at the heavyweight meets. Obviously there is a much higher populace to draw from and more funding. The lighter weights and the ladies however are far more impressive than what I have looked at results wise in the UK. What has happened here, I have mentioned BWLA a few times and it seems there is some sort of disruption that I am unaware of – maybe someone can fill me in? I lifted mainly in NSW but did the odd bit in Victoria and Queensland. Just had a look at the Australian rankings out of interest, and to be honest there isnt much difference between the standard there and that in the UK at the moment. There arent any lifters ranked with a 160 snatch or a 200 C&J (in fact only Damon Kelly really comes close), maybe the numbers you're talking about are from a few years ago? The decline in UK lifting probably has many and varied reasons, not just the perceived performance of the governing body, but also increased effectiveness of doping control will have had an effect, as well perhaps more socio-economic reasons. Who knows??? Having said that, the BWLA organisation in the North is doing pretty well.

MasterT		...	17-06-2011 @ 20:02
Member 2509, 123 posts SQ 335, BP 237.5, DL 380 952.5 kgs @ 106.4kgs UnEq	1369phil said:I've been reading through your posts - one of the issues I've always had with "weak point" training is that I'm just generally weak - it's all a weak point ! I guess if I was being a bit less general I could say, bottom of the squat - mid shin on deads and 4-6 inches off the chest for the bench. So pause squats might be useful - a small board on the bench and mid shin deads ?? Would you structure your upper body(bench) training like you suggested with the squat (one heavy day and light back off followed by one faster day with f/squats) - maybe heavy bench and light overheads followed by speed with dips/push press maybe ? What about the deadlift ? Do you think cleans have a place in a powerlifting routine ? What about overhead work ? What about complexes and other "conditioning" stuff ? Many questions - hope you dont mind ! Bottom of the squat Pause squats Box Squats Good mornings Deadlifts Sounds like a technique thing to be honest, work on keeping your back flat, your chest ‘big’ and driving with the legs. Bench Board press set just below weak point Paused bench Speed reps to a limited extent Bench I would train 3 – 4 times a week, it recovers much much faster than squat and deadlift muscle groups. Cleans have a place if performed correctly, particularly power cleans. Overhead work is useful too. Complexes have no place in powerlifting and the energy could be spent far more effectively.

MasterT		...	17-06-2011 @ 20:07
Member 2509, 123 posts SQ 335, BP 237.5, DL 380 952.5 kgs @ 106.4kgs UnEq	Fatpete said: M25 eh ? that's a real motorway and we know where it is. Is it a bluff or is it a slip ? I'm sure a secretive fellow like yourself would never reveal the real name of a road used. May I suggest that you just use M9876 for all roads to avoid confusion. By all means release to the masses my identity if your deduction abilities from such a road mentioning have suddenly removed the veil blocking your view. I shall refrain from mentioning countries too as this could be seen as equally as revealing as a real road. Is there a preferred cryptic code that will satisfy yourself?

MasterT		...	17-06-2011 @ 20:17
Member 2509, 123 posts SQ 335, BP 237.5, DL 380 952.5 kgs @ 106.4kgs UnEq	Wigan said: Just had a look at the Australian rankings out of interest, and to be honest there isnt much difference between the standard there and that in the UK at the moment. There arent any lifters ranked with a 160 snatch or a 200 C&J (in fact only Damon Kelly really comes close), maybe the numbers you're talking about are from a few years ago? The decline in UK lifting probably has many and varied reasons, not just the perceived performance of the governing body, but also increased effectiveness of doping control will have had an effect, as well perhaps more socio-economic reasons. Who knows??? Having said that, the BWLA organisation in the North is doing pretty well. I’m afraid I cannot discuss real countries, it may upset Pete. But being serious I have witnessed a few 160kg snatches, not all by the biggest lads either – but I was there for a while and am remembering a fair few years. I saw Corran snatch over 180kgs during Olympic trials in 2008 (he was 105+ at the time if I remember), he still holds the commonwealth record I think. I believe Alexan Karaptya still holds his record from the commonwealth games in the snatch too. And I believe there is some confusion probably down to how I wrote my previous response. I was led to believe from people I have spoken to so far in this land I cannot mention that the state of weightlifting was poor in the lighter categories. What is the funding like here in this country I cannot name?

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