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| VinceM |  | Help Needed | 09-01-2011 @ 14:39 |
Member 2010, 3 posts | Hi there-i'm new to the forum & wondering if anyone can help me with the following issue: I'm having real problems building up my upper chest-i've tried everything-bench press, press ups-variations on these etc but nothing quite works. Problem is my body looks slightly out of proportion and my collar bones stick out way too much even though i'm not that skinny. So my question is-does anyone else have the same problem or can someone offer some advice on how to tackle this issue?-maybe some specific exercises that can stop me looking slightly 'pigeon-chested' Cheers, Vince | ||
| ChrisGlover | | ... | 09-01-2011 @ 14:41 |
 does 'bench only' comps ...LOL Member 1469, 377 posts | one word! - incline!! from what you have described i cant see the word incline in there at all! Chris | ||
| Pompy | | ... | 09-01-2011 @ 14:42 |
 My opinions have run their course Member 694, 3112 posts | Do some incline benching.... failing that take some of dat dere tribulus | ||
| VinceM | | ... | 09-01-2011 @ 14:43 |
Member 2010, 3 posts | Thanks Chris | ||
| ALWEBB72 | | ... | 09-01-2011 @ 14:51 |
 Is wasting away !!! will be down to 30 stone soon Member 1649, 2160 posts SQ 290, BP 235, DL 325850.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | incline bench then flys bring the chest out imo mate. | ||
| tz1127 | | ... | 09-01-2011 @ 14:55 |
 Member 1419, 2281 posts SQ 175, BP 105, DL 240520.0 kgs @ 82kgs UnEq | Bench and gain weight. | ||
| VinceM | | ... | 09-01-2011 @ 14:58 |
Member 2010, 3 posts | Cheers for the responses | ||
| milsy | | ... | 09-01-2011 @ 15:10 |
 Ne n coner a fuickex .ay ouse part we .be Member 1425, 4647 posts SQ 340, BP 227.5, DL 335902.5 kgs @ 125kgs UnEq | i assume your training for looks and not strength? what i would do is heavy incline press around your 6 rep max between each set get 2 cast iron plates and put them smooth side next to each other put your hands on eathier side hold them in front of you standing and push them togther as hard as you can like your huging a tree do this for 30secs if you ease the pressure the plates will slip then back on heavy incline na dso on for about 4 sets its called need and feed training stress the muscle with heavy wieght then feed it by forcing blood into the area | ||
| joshrushton1992 | | ... | 09-01-2011 @ 15:28 |
 Member 1650, 612 posts SQ 242.5, BP 170, DL 300712.5 kgs @ 113.3kgs UnEq | tz1127 said:Bench and gain weight. lol if u actually read he said he has tryed bench. also how would gaining weight make u have a big chest?LOL | ||
| tz1127 | | ... | 09-01-2011 @ 16:13 |
Member 1419, 2281 posts SQ 175, BP 105, DL 240520.0 kgs @ 82kgs UnEq | joshrushton1992 said: lol if u actually read he said he has tryed bench. also how would gaining weight make u have a big chest?LOL You will find very few people in the real world who can add a huge amount of size to one single bodypart without significant overall bodyweight gain. E.g. a 65kg will never have 21 inch arms doesn't matter how many exercises or how long he trains his arms for. | ||
| VanillaGorilla | | ... | 09-01-2011 @ 17:06 |
 the UK's leading expert in bio mechanics Member 1973, 7379 posts | I get frustrated by this at work a lot! Taking pec minor out of the equation, if you look at pec major you can see it isn't possible to train 'upper' or 'lower' pec, or outer and inner for that matter. It's biomechanically impossible to isolate or target different cross sections of fibres. Consider that the origination point is the bicepitial groove at thw anterior delt, and insertion points are at the clavicle and sternum, how can you contract only part of it? Compare it to the elastic band, holding it at both ends only. How can you stretch the top edge only? Or the inner half? Obviously you can't without adding extra attachment points or contrary forces. The pecoralis group is responsible for anterior movement of the humerus, along with other muscles, so put simply, all external pressing will activate the entire muscle, regardless of angle, until the plane falls into the anterior delt sphere. So just press, your chest should grow proportionately. The thinnest tsection will still be the thinnest, but will fill out with the rest of the muscle. As pointed out earlier, an increase in mass, muscle and adipose, will help with the appearence. | ||
| Pompy | | ... | 09-01-2011 @ 17:14 |
My opinions have run their course Member 694, 3112 posts | While technically I can't argue with your post vanillagorilla.... it is not just folklore that points to an increase in mass on the top part of the chest by doing incline bench. I have seen it myself, so it does happen regardless of any anatomical goings on... it is a fact that incline bench press increases muscle mass at the top of your chest. | ||
| tz1127 | | ... | 09-01-2011 @ 17:17 |
Member 1419, 2281 posts SQ 175, BP 105, DL 240520.0 kgs @ 82kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 09.01.2011 @ 17:18 PM by tz1127 Not sure about upper/lower pec stuff as its not something I know/care about; however, as per your first post, if you really can see your collar sticking out badly you must be very lean/thin. | ||
| VanillaGorilla | | ... | 09-01-2011 @ 17:17 |
the UK's leading expert in bio mechanics Member 1973, 7379 posts | thats exactly my point pompy! So will flat bench, dumbell bench, dips etc! Incline wont add any EXTRA mass over the other movements | ||
| Pompy | | ... | 09-01-2011 @ 17:34 |
My opinions have run their course Member 694, 3112 posts | VanillaGorilla said:thats exactly my point pompy! So will flat bench, dumbell bench, dips etc! Incline wont add any EXTRA mass over the other movements No I disagree I mean! For me... incline bench press added more mass to the top part of the pectorals than flat bench press. | ||