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BrenWad | ... | 11-08-2016 @ 16:59 | |
Enough was enough. Banned. Member 6099, 775 posts SQ 300, BP 195, DL 310805.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | AdamT said: Z is the king. Gradual strength built over a long successful career. The best ever. I'm a Shaw fan as well, but Z is still the best overall strongman ever. Most World record ever. Most Arnold Classics ever. And most overall 'World's strongest man' titles. He won two with the other crowd, didn't he?? He's the best ever for sure. | ||
BrenWad | ... | 11-08-2016 @ 17:02 | |
Enough was enough. Banned. Member 6099, 775 posts SQ 300, BP 195, DL 310805.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | drex50 said: Again I don't think so. Strict axle pressing 208kg X 2 ASM 2010, squat in wraps 440 x 2, front squat 350kg X 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1fetzWzgQw nobody beats that, even 500 kilo deadlift I just disagree. Nobody has thrown epic weights around like Hall has. He's the sort of guy who would beat everyone at every powerlift, gym lift and bro lift by a good margin. Z is stronger all round in strongman comps, in better shape and in same league as hall in static strength,bar deadlift. | ||
BrenWad | ... | 11-08-2016 @ 17:04 | |
Enough was enough. Banned. Member 6099, 775 posts SQ 300, BP 195, DL 310805.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | unit94 said:Ed hasn't done any pressing as impressive as what Z did with the axle in 2010. No one has If hall stopped f**king around killing himself with the deadlift we'd have seen a 240log from him by now. The deadlift has ruined his body and all round performance. | ||
KevC86 | ... | 11-08-2016 @ 18:00 | |
Member 5141, 4199 posts SQ 300, BP 180, DL 350830.0 kgs @ 130kgs UnEq | BrenWad said: If hall stopped f**king around killing himself with the deadlift we'd have seen a 240log from him by now. The deadlift has ruined his body and all round performance. Just not accurate. At no point has ed looked close to catching Zs log record, never mind sticking 10kg on it. As ridiculous as Eds static power is, his inability to push press will always hinder him at the very highest level. | ||
Benvie | ... | 11-08-2016 @ 19:06 | |
embarrasingly poor bench Member 2684, 4043 posts SQ 240, BP 135, DL 275650.0 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | MJG said: Pudz has more WSM titles and IMO put in the greatest single performances in a strongman contest ever. His domination of the field at WSM 2003. Z is still the greatest strongman of all time. That was a great performance from mariusz but I think that zydrunas' performance in the 2009 final was even better. Admittedly he did have one bad event with the arm over arm but I think he never looked like losing that year in what was probably a stronger field (more multiple wsm winners and poundstone back when he was near his peak) and z looked like he was cruising along at times. As good as the field was in 2003 there were a few guys there like karlsen, virtanen and samuelson who were getting to be past their peak by that point. Still impressive how easy mariusz made everything look though. | ||
dannyboy73 | stop living in the past Dannyboy...sharnt sir, never! | 11-08-2016 @ 19:22 | |
Mask it or Casket !! Member 4600, 8166 posts SQ 240, BP 162.5, DL 255657.5 kgs @ 90.5kgs UnEq | No! That would be Jon Pal. Its not about who is the strongest, fastest, best record...its about who has the most hart and who can win over the people. Z is the greatest...of current times - I agree and a likeable chap ... but not of all time. Its like comparing Arnie to Yates or whoever is Mr O nowadays? Shaw ...leaves me cold tbh. Anyone except Shaw... Dont know about you all...bloody excited for this to commence Goona be an exciting comp. AdamT said: , but Z is still the best overall strongman ever. | ||
BrenWad | ... | 11-08-2016 @ 19:34 | |
Enough was enough. Banned. Member 6099, 775 posts SQ 300, BP 195, DL 310805.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | KevC86 said: Just not accurate. At no point has ed looked close to catching Zs log record, never mind sticking 10kg on it. As ridiculous as Eds static power is, his inability to push press will always hinder him at the very highest level. Hall has sacrificed his Log on the altar of a 500kg deadlift. Push pressing has nothing to do with it. Hall can strict press more than anyone. The idea he cannot push press because of some patella issue is rubbish-if he had f**ked knees he wouldn't be banging out super heavy squats. He's a strategic thinker. He saw the furor surrounding Benni's questionable 1015 deadlift and decided to put all his eggs in the 500kg deadlift. Can't blame him. He's way more famous than many of the ppl who have WSM trophy. He'll be the Kevin Levrone of WSM. | ||
BrenWad | ... | 11-08-2016 @ 19:36 | |
Enough was enough. Banned. Member 6099, 775 posts SQ 300, BP 195, DL 310805.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | dannyboy73 said:No! That would be Jon Pal. Its not about who is the strongest, fastest, best record...its about who has the most hart and who can win over the people. Z is the greatest...of current times - I agree and a likeable chap ... but not of all time. Its like comparing Arnie to Yates or whoever is Mr O nowadays? Shaw ...leaves me cold tbh. Anyone except Shaw... Dont know about you all...bloody excited for this to commence Goona be an exciting comp. Sigmasson was a great showman, but he wouldnt have beaten Kaz before his pec and back issues. The weights these guys lifted were laughable. Mariusz is the closest legend to the current crop, and perhaps he could have adapted to compete by becoming heavier and taking even more gear and coke-if that's even possible-but the Z and Shaw era is leagues ahead of the rest. | ||
josh_ains | ... | 11-08-2016 @ 19:48 | |
Member 786, 2077 posts SQ 262, BP 155, DL 300717.0 kgs @ 122kgs UnEq | BrenWad said: Hall has sacrificed his Log on the altar of a 500kg deadlift. Push pressing has nothing to do with it. Hall can strict press more than anyone. The idea he cannot push press because of some patella issue is rubbish-if he had f**ked knees he wouldn't be banging out super heavy squats. He's a strategic thinker. He saw the furor surrounding Benni's questionable 1015 deadlift and decided to put all his eggs in the 500kg deadlift. Can't blame him. He's way more famous than many of the ppl who have WSM trophy. He'll be the Kevin Levrone of WSM. anyone who saw ed in his first few comps saw he started with knee issues , if it flares every push press session youd never be recovered he's training the best way he can so that he can recover , energy wise his technique is pretty taxing tricky to sustain a press out with blacking out , eventually cleans will jump up and take far less out of him to ensure he gets a alltime log pb imo | ||
FAT_SAM | ... | 11-08-2016 @ 23:07 | |
more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 3351015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq | BrenWad said: If hall stopped f**king around killing himself with the deadlift we'd have seen a 240log from him by now. The deadlift has ruined his body and all round performance. Agreed. He locked out 220 strict last year. Just passed out before he stood up straight BUT his arms were locked. If they offer him 50k for 240 log he will do it. No one else in the world can strict press 220 IMO I did 170 strict log once and people were like holy s**t when are we gonna see you on WSM lol... I'm just a fat powerlifter... Hall is on another level! | ||
FAT_SAM | ... | 11-08-2016 @ 23:09 | |
more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 3351015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq | Hell if they offered 50k for a 240kg log i'd go back on tons of drugs and train for it lol. | ||
drex50 | ... | 11-08-2016 @ 23:20 | |
It's a moonface era now. Member 5901, 956 posts | FAT_SAM said: Agreed. He locked out 220 strict last year. Just passed out before he stood up straight BUT his arms were locked. If they offer him 50k for 240 log he will do it. No one else in the world can strict press 220 IMO I did 170 strict log once and people were like holy s**t when are we gonna see you on WSM lol... I'm just a fat powerlifter... Hall is on another level! no he didn lock it out above head, he couldn, he pushed it forward and this is the only impressive pressing from him in competition ever when he starts pressing 220 logs on regular base then i can believe u 240 log is possible by him u talk like a fanboy 208 x 2 strict axle means nobody except Hall can strict 220 ok buddy | ||
unit94 | ... | 11-08-2016 @ 23:31 | |
what is everyone's fran time? Member 3986, 10443 posts SQ 340, BP 200, DL 400940.0 kgs @ 129kgs Eq | Z could probably strict 220, Ed hasn't yet | ||
FAT_SAM | ... | 12-08-2016 @ 00:09 | |
more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 3351015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq | I would fancy Hall over Z if I had to bet on one of them to press 220kg on a bar from the rack. | ||
Benvie | ... | 12-08-2016 @ 01:29 | |
embarrasingly poor bench Member 2684, 4043 posts SQ 240, BP 135, DL 275650.0 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | josh_ains said: eventually cleans will jump up and take far less out of him to ensure he gets a alltime log pb imo I think it is more likely that radz will be the man to beat zydrunas' log record if he can stay healthy. Hall may well get there too though, depends how much longer he continues competing/how much he concentrates on log. | ||
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