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| IainKendrick |  | ... | 06-08-2013 @ 20:47 |
 some nice relaxing jazz. Member 77, 12599 posts SQ 265, BP 165, DL 280710.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 06.08.2013 @ 20:49 PM by IainKendrick fong said: surely if creatine retains water and caffeine is a diuretic, it must hinder it to a certain extent. sure you can drink more water but that is a response to said hindrance. Caffeine is a diuretic yes. However if you drink a cup of coffee the net result is increased hydration. Same as with a can of Monster etc. However hydration really has nothing to do with the effect that creatine exerts on exercise performance. It will not hinder absorption nor hinder the increase in 'PCr'. Most of the subjects in the orginal studies (the Hultman/Green/Harris group) looking at creatine loading popped the creatine in teas or coffees. This idea came from a study (Vandenburg et al 19??) that essentially loaded people with creatine, tested performance via a very arduous bout of isokinetic extension of the knee and repeated taking a dose of caffeine prior. They saw that the performance increase (total work done IIRC) due to creatine was reduced after the caffeine. However they could not really show a decent mechanism by which this would happen. The study has since been refuted by being repeated by other groups with no change in performance due to taking caffeine before the same bout of exercise. So I suggest not worrying about caffeine and whilst using creatine. In am quite sure an excess of caffeine will have more worrying problems. | ||
| IainKendrick | | ... | 06-08-2013 @ 20:48 |
some nice relaxing jazz. Member 77, 12599 posts SQ 265, BP 165, DL 280710.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | MrSmall said:How about CHOCOLATE MILK, VG? TBH I tend to prefer full fat milk. For less money you get way more kcals and protein. I actually like a cold couple of pints of milk as much as some lesser choc milkshakes. | ||
| VanillaGorilla | | ... | 07-08-2013 @ 11:42 |
 the UK's leading expert in bio mechanics Member 1973, 7379 posts | Post Edited: 07.08.2013 @ 11:42 AM by VanillaGorilla IainKendrick said: TBH I tend to prefer full fat milk. For less money you get way more kcals and protein. I actually like a cold couple of pints of milk as much as some lesser choc milkshakes. Exactly my thoughts! Milk tends to get some bad press, and while I've slugged a gallon a day, for most people I'd avoid that quantity! Fat soluble nutrients, protein and decent fat all good. As for lactose? Personally lactose gives me no GI issues, and I respond really well to it in terms of recovery. In short, I love milk! It's not for everyone though! | ||
| MrSmall | | ... | 07-08-2013 @ 11:49 |
Gone and easily forgotten....... Member 331, 22298 posts SQ 185, BP 100, DL 230515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | I meant whole milk with nesquik, not shop bought stuff. | ||
| fong | | ... | 07-08-2013 @ 11:54 |
 really really interesting Member 3474, 2816 posts SQ 170, BP 120, DL 260550.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | IainKendrick said: Caffeine is a diuretic yes. However if you drink a cup of coffee the net result is increased hydration. Same as with a can of Monster etc. However hydration really has nothing to do with the effect that creatine exerts on exercise performance. It will not hinder absorption nor hinder the increase in 'PCr'. Most of the subjects in the orginal studies (the Hultman/Green/Harris group) looking at creatine loading popped the creatine in teas or coffees. This idea came from a study (Vandenburg et al 19??) that essentially loaded people with creatine, tested performance via a very arduous bout of isokinetic extension of the knee and repeated taking a dose of caffeine prior. They saw that the performance increase (total work done IIRC) due to creatine was reduced after the caffeine. However they could not really show a decent mechanism by which this would happen. The study has since been refuted by being repeated by other groups with no change in performance due to taking caffeine before the same bout of exercise. So I suggest not worrying about caffeine and whilst using creatine. In am quite sure an excess of caffeine will have more worrying problems. oh ok cool thanks. i don't drink a lot anyway, just in the staff room on breaks lol. | ||
| JC | | ... | 07-08-2013 @ 12:12 |
 technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | VanillaGorilla said: Yea Rodger, that's pretty much spot on. Nice yellow banna so the sugar is faster acting. I thought it was the other way round? Learn something new everyday... | ||
| martinb | | ... | 07-08-2013 @ 12:14 |
 Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | JC said: VanillaGorilla said: Yea Rodger, that's pretty much spot on. Nice yellow banna so the sugar is faster acting. I thought it was the other way round? Learn something new everyday... I'm guessing he means rather than green Black would be the highest sugar? | ||
| VanillaGorilla | | ... | 07-08-2013 @ 12:22 |
the UK's leading expert in bio mechanics Member 1973, 7379 posts | Green &rt; yellow &rt; black Most resistant starch &rt; least resistant starch | ||
| Cuddles | | ... | 07-08-2013 @ 13:08 |
 Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator | IainKendrick said: TBH I tend to prefer full fat milk. For less money you get way more kcals and protein. I actually like a cold couple of pints of milk as much as some lesser choc milkshakes. Then dont buy lesser chocolate milkshakes...  | ||
| Rodger | | ... | 07-08-2013 @ 13:11 |
 salad dodger *missing* Member 1805, 10367 posts SQ 215, BP 121, DL 240576.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Personally I think VG is trying to confuse us all...  Sooo black fastest acting sugars, green the slowest acting, yellow getting there?!  | ||
| VanillaGorilla | | ... | 07-08-2013 @ 13:14 |
the UK's leading expert in bio mechanics Member 1973, 7379 posts | Rodger said:Personally I think VG is trying to confuse us all... Sooo black fastest acting sugars, green the slowest acting, yellow getting there?! Lol yes | ||
| IainKendrick | | ... | 07-08-2013 @ 14:14 |
some nice relaxing jazz. Member 77, 12599 posts SQ 265, BP 165, DL 280710.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | Cuddles said: Then dont buy lesser chocolate milkshakes... Thought JC did? | ||
| Cuddles | | ... | 07-08-2013 @ 14:18 |
Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator | There aren't many life decisions that JC gets right. | ||
| JC | | ... | 07-08-2013 @ 14:22 |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Cuddles said:There aren't many life decisions that JC gets right. http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/keep-calm-and-dont-be-a-bel... | ||
| JackRevans | | ... | 07-08-2013 @ 16:13 |
 'There was also a sausage in my mouth.' Member 2477, 16481 posts SQ 190, BP 130, DL 235555.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq | useful article | ||