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dr_hazbunIcon...22-10-2016 @ 12:26 
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That's very interesting. They feel like they'd be good for you but good to know there's some evidence.
CuddlesIcon...22-10-2016 @ 13:27 
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Steve said:There was a recent study on triathletes which showed significant improvements in performance and body composition from low intensity fasted morning workouts as long as fueled intense sessions were maintained.


This has been my experience.

I do think they can be very useful at keeping your body used to burning fat as a fuel, but they have to be fairly long for that (or after a longer fast). I worked up to 75 miles on nothing but caffeine and water after a 12 hour fast two summers ago and my endurance went through the roof.
dr_hazbunIcon...23-10-2016 @ 16:22 
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Anyone have experience of the castelli gabba 2 long sleeve jersey? This line seems to have been discontinued and now replaced by the castelli perfetto. I'm a platinum wiggle user so can get the perfetto for 155 instead of 175.

I have a castelli (puro I think) long sleeve jersey but it's more for milder spring and autumn days. Should I just stick with it and layer up with thermal base layers and gilets over the next 3 months? Or is forking out on a quality winter jersey money well spent? I'm new to winter cycling so thoughts on cycling winter wardrobe would be much appreciated.
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CuddlesIcon...23-10-2016 @ 17:12 
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I would be absolutely amazed if the gabba has been discontinued. It's their flagship jersey. Last years will have been, but replaced by this years. The new one is a very different jersey, mich thinner.

I love my gabba jerseys. Can't fault them enough, but they have a very specific use. They are not winter jerseys per se, but very good for hard fast riding in winter, when your body will create a lot of its own heat.

For long steady miles you'll be cold, and colder still in the new one.
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went along with the wife n kids to UCLAN sports arena - it had a nice 1 mile cycle track and a running track , you can pay to use it for the day ...its one of those great resources that is completely under used , anyhoo , I can see myself doing some great training there - endless laps with no traffic and the option to do brick sessions

they do have crit races / duathlons there in the summer months , which I may take a look at

going to do the London 'race' tomoz but my main goal will be to just stay with the pack the whole race !! no crazy attempts on box hill

oh, powermeter fund is at the half-way point !!
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That looks a great facility. Just need a 50m pool nearby to get some serious yds in!
CuddlesIcon...24-10-2016 @ 09:03 
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dr_hazbun said:Anyone have experience of the castelli gabba 2 long sleeve jersey? This line seems to have been discontinued and now replaced by the castelli perfetto. I'm a platinum wiggle user so can get the perfetto for 155 instead of 175.

I have a castelli (puro I think) long sleeve jersey but it's more for milder spring and autumn days. Should I just stick with it and layer up with thermal base layers and gilets over the next 3 months? Or is forking out on a quality winter jersey money well spent? I'm new to winter cycling so thoughts on cycling winter wardrobe would be much appreciated.
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I stand corrected. They have discontinued the gabba, but only the long sleeve. Without having ever seen or worn the perfetto it's hard to comment but castellimare saying it's just a renamed gabba. That stands in contrast to everything I've read about the perfetto which said that it was thinner (my memory of the names might be wrong but I don't think so).

I love my gabba long sleeve, I paid less than a ton for it on sale, it fits great, looks great and is warm enough on autumn and spring days or colder days if I'm riding faster. I definitely wouldn't describe it as a winter jacket and it's not water'proof'.

For proper winter riding you'll want something warmer, and a good base layer. Being cold is horrible on a long ride.
CuddlesIcon...24-10-2016 @ 16:08 
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Just did the full pretzel on zwift.

Actually really enjoyed it. Averaged 260W for the whole course but started to pay pretty toward the end for only eating a banana mid ride.

I think it's a good route to see where you're at endurance wise.
dr_hazbunIcon...24-10-2016 @ 16:30 
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Post Edited: 24.10.2016 @ 16:39 PM by dr_hazbun
Cuddles said:
I stand corrected. They have discontinued the gabba, but only the long sleeve. Without having ever seen or worn the perfetto it's hard to comment but castellimare saying it's just a renamed gabba. That stands in contrast to everything I've read about the perfetto which said that it was thinner (my memory of the names might be wrong but I don't think so).
I love my gabba long sleeve, I paid less than a ton for it on sale, it fits great, looks great and is warm enough on autumn and spring days or colder days if I'm riding faster. I definitely wouldn't describe it as a winter jacket and it's not water'proof'.
For proper winter riding you'll want something warmer, and a good base layer. Being cold is horrible on a long ride.


Just been to my local bike shop, chatted to the lads there and tried both the gabba 2 and the perfetto. The perfetto is indeed slightly thinner and it's pockets aren't as good. I bought the gabba in the end as I think actually the better, more versatile jersey. I also prefer the deeper pockets. The medium also fits for snug, race fit. I'd have gone for large if buying online so this surprised me considering castelli make clothes for small Italian men! Got it for 145 which isn't bad considering 165 is the going rate. I think I'll be spending a lot of time in this jersey over the next few months.

Also got myself a pair of castelli nanoflex 2 bib tights for 81 which was a steal. Couldn't resist them!
dr_hazbunIcon...24-10-2016 @ 16:34 
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Post Edited: 24.10.2016 @ 16:41 PM by dr_hazbun
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SteveIcon...24-10-2016 @ 16:34 
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How much are you weighing nowadays fitting in a medium? Not still 90kg?
dr_hazbunIcon...24-10-2016 @ 16:40 
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Steve said:How much are you weighing nowadays fitting in a medium? Not still 90kg?


Yeah much lighter these days. 78-79kg!
CuddlesIcon...24-10-2016 @ 16:40 
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I'm a medium in the gabba top. It fits like a glove.

Big fan of castelli stuff. I use their nano flex arm and leg warmers, free aero race shorts and my winter jacket is a mortirolo. Once you know your size you can get some cracking bargains online.
dr_hazbunIcon...24-10-2016 @ 16:48 
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Cuddles said:I'm a medium in the gabba top. It fits like a glove.

Big fan of castelli stuff. I use their nano flex arm and leg warmers, free aero race shorts and my winter jacket is a mortirolo. Once you know your size you can get some cracking bargains online.


I'm becoming a big fan too. Medium is snug and I can even fit a thermal base layer underneath it. I bought a castelli gilet online in XL thinking they do things small and it flaps in the wind. Shame.

In bottoms though, I'm definitely not a medium. Both L and XL are ok. I guess it's all dem years of squatting.
dr_hazbunIcon...25-10-2016 @ 16:15 
tabbouleh and fattoush salads were very refreshing
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First ride in the Gabba today. Great top and fantastic for this sort of 5-15 degree weather. Can see what you're saying re it not being a winter jacket. Good investment though. Lad in bike shop said he knows someone who loves it so much he owns three!

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