Sarah Robles (USA Olympian +75kg) Officially Busted
| Tom_Martin |  | ... | 13-12-2013 @ 10:03 |
 No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | polkovnikostin said: No need for comments like this. ....... ............such a s**t stirrer lol. | ||
| CJR | | ... | 13-12-2013 @ 11:22 |
 Member 4145, 1331 posts SQ 172.5, BP 115, DL 220507.5 kgs @ 100.4kgs UnEq | they deleted the pendlay thread.  phil can you do your witchcraft magic where you conjur up a page from the past please  | ||
| WaterfieId | | ... | 13-12-2013 @ 12:48 |
Member 4114, 355 posts | Post Edited: 13.12.2013 @ 12:49 PM by WaterfieId Bing and Google only cached up to half way on page 43. So IDK what happened last night. Not going to save the page since there's nothing interesting on it.edit- sugdens code went into this url so I shortened it so it would work: http://tinyurl.com/njazfzd http://tinyurl.com/onnt6kn | ||
| JamesH | | ... | 13-12-2013 @ 22:29 |
 my buttocks hurt Member 337, 2119 posts SQ 300, BP 140, DL 305745.0 kgs @ 125kgs Eq | He does come across as something of a wa**er. As far is can be discerned, she was prescribed it for polycystic ovary syndrome - not the nicest thing, and hardly something to just leave untreated. His comments do not sound like those of a great coach. | ||
| Rico | | ... | 13-12-2013 @ 22:41 |
 Sugdens very own David Dimbleby Member 1403, 3716 posts SQ 220, BP 115, DL 260595.0 kgs @ 97kgs UnEq | Have I missed something? Who is the wa**erous coach in question? | ||
| martinb | | ... | 13-12-2013 @ 22:51 |
 Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | JamesH said:He does come across as something of a wa**er. As far is can be discerned, she was prescribed it for polycystic ovary syndrome - not the nicest thing, and hardly something to just leave untreated. His comments do not sound like those of a great coach. But from what the coach says she asked for an exemption and was denied So what she says is completely irrelevant, I don't care whats wrong with her, if she decides to take whatever it was she took (under doctors order or whatever), then DON'T COMPETE No ifs no buts | ||
| JamesH | | ... | 13-12-2013 @ 23:06 |
my buttocks hurt Member 337, 2119 posts SQ 300, BP 140, DL 305745.0 kgs @ 125kgs Eq | martinb said: But from what the coach says she asked for an exemption and was denied So what she says is completely irrelevant, I don't care whats wrong with her, if she decides to take whatever it was she took (under doctors order or whatever), then DON'T COMPETE No ifs no buts Indeed. She's had a difficult decision to make and didn't get it right. People make mistakes. But he hardly sounds like he's been supportive. I would argue that an actual coach should have taken some responsibility for a lifter he regards as 'his,' and offered some help. Instead, he (claims) he told her what he thought then moved on - leaving her with the decision to take a risk and leave her condition untreated, or take a different sort of risk and take the medication. In her position I certainly wouldn't be putting him on my Christmas card list. That's not coaching. That's being the guy who takes credit for your success but disassociated himself from your failures. In short, not a coach. Just a wa**er. | ||
| Tom_Martin | | ... | 13-12-2013 @ 23:14 |
No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | I dunno.... If the options are take the medication and don't compete Or take the medication and risk getting banned from competing... The outcome from both options, in the worst case is that she doesn't compete, and in the best case, that she gets to be healthy and carry on enjoying what she loves doing until she gets caught. There's not an awful lot to lose really, if the options are don't compete by choice, or don't compete because you're banned. Right or wrong, I understand her decision.... | ||
| JNT | | ... | 13-12-2013 @ 23:28 |
 Member 4773, 192 posts SQ 160, BP 116, DL 215491.0 kgs @ 76kgs UnEq | I like how he emphasises the special connection between the two of them but at the same time says he didn't follow up on whether she worked on getting permission or whatever happened. | ||
| CJR | | ... | 13-12-2013 @ 23:40 |
Member 4145, 1331 posts SQ 172.5, BP 115, DL 220507.5 kgs @ 100.4kgs UnEq | Tom_Martin said:I dunno.... If the options are take the medication and don't compete Or take the medication and risk getting banned from competing... The outcome from both options, in the worst case is that she doesn't compete, and in the best case, that she gets to be healthy and carry on enjoying what she loves doing until she gets caught. There's not an awful lot to lose really, if the options are don't compete by choice, or don't compete because you're banned. Right or wrong, I understand her decision.... Surely worst case scenario is having her reputation completely tarnished and not being able to compete for a minimum of two years! Best case scenario is that she cheats and is able to compete but still has to live with knowing that she's cheated to get there. | ||
| JNT | | ... | 13-12-2013 @ 23:42 |
Member 4773, 192 posts SQ 160, BP 116, DL 215491.0 kgs @ 76kgs UnEq | CJR said: Surely worst case scenario is having her reputation completely tarnished and not being able to compete for a minimum of two years! Best case scenario is that she cheats and is able to compete but still has to live with knowing that she's cheated to get there. Is it cheating if all the other kids do it though? | ||
| brynevans | | ... | 13-12-2013 @ 23:51 |
 Scotbasher - forever Member 59, 2115 posts | JNT said: Is it cheating if all the other kids do it though? It's cheating if the rules say you can't do it. It's a s**t excuse to say "they're all at it so I must join them" | ||
| JamesH | | ... | 13-12-2013 @ 23:54 |
my buttocks hurt Member 337, 2119 posts SQ 300, BP 140, DL 305745.0 kgs @ 125kgs Eq | Tom_Martin said:I dunno.... If the options are take the medication and don't compete Or take the medication and risk getting banned from competing... The outcome from both options, in the worst case is that she doesn't compete, and in the best case, that she gets to be healthy and carry on enjoying what she loves doing until she gets caught. There's not an awful lot to lose really, if the options are don't compete by choice, or don't compete because you're banned. Right or wrong, I understand her decision.... You've pretty much summed up what I was trying to communicate (though without calling anyone a wa**er). | ||
| CJR | | ... | 13-12-2013 @ 23:59 |
Member 4145, 1331 posts SQ 172.5, BP 115, DL 220507.5 kgs @ 100.4kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 14.12.2013 @ 00:00 AM by CJR JNT said: Is it cheating if all the other kids do it though? Until a lifter fails a drug test they're clean in my eyes. And that's the way I think it should be. Besides, if she mainly competes in national competitions, then nobody else would be cheating. Everybody knows..."American weightlifters don't take drugs!"  EDIT: yeah what Bryn said as well lol | ||
| JNT | | ... | 14-12-2013 @ 00:00 |
Member 4773, 192 posts SQ 160, BP 116, DL 215491.0 kgs @ 76kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 14.12.2013 @ 00:02 AM by JNT It would be great if you could assume everybody was clean until proven otherwise. But in weightlifting, especially at the international level, I am not sure how accurate that assumption would be. | ||
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