RANT! Terrorist allowed to stay in the UK.
| Joni |  | ... | 14-04-2008 @ 09:56 |
 left the country satisfied Member 10, 19241 posts SQ 240, BP 150, DL 270660.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq | aye thats true. on paper it does look like things have progressed alot in recent decades, but then many of those progressions are being backtracked now in recent years. | ||
| StevenScoular | | ... | 14-04-2008 @ 16:46 |
 Good game good game -------- Great deadlift great deadlift Member 270, 78 posts SQ 160, BP 90, DL 190440.0 kgs @ 52kgs Eq | little_a said: StevenScoular said: I hope society has moved on from then and generally it has. Society has become a lot more selective about what it has moved on from. If you think for a minute that there has been no trace of genocide or racial cleansing since 1945 may I suggest several informative TV programs commonly known as 'The News'? Mugabe, Amin, Pol Pot, Milosovich, Hussein are just a few obvious ones that spring to mind whose regemes are responsible for several million deaths. How we've moved on. I personally dont like what this guy is saying, but I love the fact that he can say it. You make a good point. In my opinion I don't like what he is saying and I don't think he should say it at all and the government are right to try to silence him. | ||
| Cuddles | | ... | 14-04-2008 @ 16:57 |
 Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator | StevenScoular said: little_a said: StevenScoular said: I hope society has moved on from then and generally it has. Society has become a lot more selective about what it has moved on from. If you think for a minute that there has been no trace of genocide or racial cleansing since 1945 may I suggest several informative TV programs commonly known as 'The News'? Mugabe, Amin, Pol Pot, Milosovich, Hussein are just a few obvious ones that spring to mind whose regemes are responsible for several million deaths. How we've moved on. I personally dont like what this guy is saying, but I love the fact that he can say it. You make a good point. In my opinion I don't like what he is saying and I don't think he should say it at all and the government are right to try to silence him. [plays devils advocate] Where do you stand on freedom of speech? And if you think its a fundamental freedom (as I do), how far does someone have to go for us to be able to stop them having this freedom? And im not loading that one way or the other, im genuinely interested. | ||
| StevenScoular | | ... | 14-04-2008 @ 17:02 |
Good game good game -------- Great deadlift great deadlift Member 270, 78 posts SQ 160, BP 90, DL 190440.0 kgs @ 52kgs Eq | Post Edited: 14.04.2008 @ 17:03 PM by StevenScoular Freedom of speech should be cherished.His 'speech' is focused on 'inciting racial hadtrid' and that shouldn't be tolerated! The governement are right to try and deport him as he brings no benefit to society. So in that repect I agree with their motives. | ||
| Cuddles | | ... | 14-04-2008 @ 18:02 |
Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator | StevenScoular said: Freedom of speech should be cherished. His 'speech' is focused on 'inciting racial hadtrid' and that shouldn't be tolerated! The governement are right to try and deport him as he brings no benefit to society. So in that repect I agree with their motives. But my question was, when does free speech become 'inciting racial hatred'? and I dont mean from a legal perspective. Do the BNP not 'incite' racial hatred with some of their promotional material? Should we deport them too? I raelly struggle with this. I have a lot of ideas about what I call 'basic freedoms', freedom of speech being one of them. I think he should be allowed to say what the hell he wants to say, it allows the rest of the world to look at this person as a lunatic. Does anyone raelly think that terrorism will be averted if we deport him? | ||
| EDCLARKE | | ... | 14-04-2008 @ 18:50 |
 not particularly well educated Member 85, 11010 posts SQ 170, BP 130, DL 260560.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | I have no problem with him saying he wants to kill us all ,its the doing it and then claiming benefit from the state he so clearly despises that sticks in my craw! make the c**t pay it all back!  | ||
| Rick | | ... | 14-04-2008 @ 21:17 |
 I am a bench-only guy Member 3, 10067 posts SQ 185, BP 175, DL 235595.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq Administrator | StevenScoular said: In my opinion I don't like what he is saying and I don't think he should say it at all and the government are right to try to silence him. I don't like what you are saying and don't think you should say it at all. However, as a hard-line liberal I will, of course, defend your right to say it, while asserting that you could not be wronger if you tried and had expert help. Quite apart from the incredibly important principle, attempts to silence people who talk against the state is a really good way to make them look right. | ||
| StevenScoular | | ... | 14-04-2008 @ 21:37 |
Good game good game -------- Great deadlift great deadlift Member 270, 78 posts SQ 160, BP 90, DL 190440.0 kgs @ 52kgs Eq | I don't believe in extreme left wing, I don't beleive in extreme right wing. I think a middle balance is needed. IMO this country is too soft, but that's a different discussion. It's ok if you don't agree with what I say it's just one guy's opinion. | ||
| little_a | | ... | 15-04-2008 @ 08:20 |
 still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14379 posts | StevenScoular said: The governement are right to try and deport him as he brings no benefit to society. So in that repect I agree with their motives. There's a whole load of native Brits that fit into that bracket too, but no one screams for them to be deported. Isnt wanting this guy deported and not all the other spongers 'racist'? Anyway, more importantly, when you go to Austria is the blond in your avi going with you? and if not how does she feel about lemon fresh love?  | ||
| StevenScoular | | ... | 15-04-2008 @ 10:53 |
Good game good game -------- Great deadlift great deadlift Member 270, 78 posts SQ 160, BP 90, DL 190440.0 kgs @ 52kgs Eq | little_a said: StevenScoular said: The governement are right to try and deport him as he brings no benefit to society. So in that repect I agree with their motives. There's a whole load of native Brits that fit into that bracket too, but no one screams for them to be deported. Isnt wanting this guy deported and not all the other spongers 'racist'? Anyway, more importantly, when you go to Austria is the blond in your avi going with you? and if not how does she feel about lemon fresh love? Oh I didn't mean it like that! I could have worded it a bit better. No I am certainly not racist. This is not a race arguement. Nono the blonde is a friend. I don't know what lemon fresh love is but it sounds good and I love lemons I am going to Austria for the WPC Europeans soon actually. | ||
| little_a | | ... | 15-04-2008 @ 11:00 |
still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14379 posts | StevenScoular said: Nono the blonde is a friend. I don't know what lemon fresh love is but it sounds good and I love lemons WOW StevenS.  Lemon fresh love doesnt work man/man. Never has never will. Two ways you can go here. 1) Get drunk with a bunch of lemon fresh ladies and live the dream 2) Get your friend to get drunk with any or all the lemon fresh fella's and explain the meaning to you on her recovery several days later I suggest choice 2) It wont bother your training so much.  | ||
| mishima | | ... | 15-04-2008 @ 18:59 |
 pink french superstar beard Member 26, 4030 posts SQ 190, BP 0, DL 205395.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | little_a said: 1) Get drunk with a bunch of lemon fresh ladies and live the dream What the f**k happened to that one? Was i too drunk to notice them or did we just skip? | ||
| little_a | | ... | 16-04-2008 @ 08:11 |
still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14379 posts | Adlington is the place that time forgot JC. A womans role is in the home, and definately not in the gym. Hence, no lemon fresh ladies at Adders. Just a few groupies | ||
| little_a | | ... | 16-05-2008 @ 13:06 |
still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14379 posts | StevenScoular said: I just read in the paper that Abu Hamza the top terrorist hate preacher in this country won his fight against being deported. reason - because of his 'human rights'.... I am sorry but I think if a terrorist somebody like him who wants to kill people and doesn't care about their human rights...why should HE have any!? I don't get it. If this continues I predict a revolution in this country. I am off to Austria with my Austrian passport permanently I think lol. I like you Stevie. You're mate is fine and you are quite witty, but..... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7400767.stm Another??? WTF are all these Austrians on? | ||
| brynevans | | ... | 16-05-2008 @ 13:55 |
 Scotbasher - forever Member 59, 2115 posts | Would you rather be locked in a cellar for 24yrs or hacked to death with an axe? I think we should send a load of Rangers fans to sort these Austrians out. | ||
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