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brownbear | ... | 10-09-2012 @ 22:59 | |
Morrisons - rump - 7£ Member 2206, 11578 posts SQ 228, BP 150, DL 260638.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | luke00 said: Back when we were cavemen, we ate alot alkaline forming foods - fruit, nuts, seeds, fish, plants etc, a lot of it would have been raw to. It is not about a fad diet, or new craze it's scientific fact that our bodies are meant to be alkaline. Our systems do not know how to cope with all this processed, acid forming food. I am not saying it will cure cancer what I am saying is if your body is functioning at its optimum and running on the fuel it was designed to use it will lipolise quicker and will grow better. I don't just read this stuff I put it into practice on myself and clients. Over the last 14 days I have eaten more food in terms of calories, but they have been more alkaline forming and nothing processed and I have dropped bodyfat and put on lean tissue, and have more energy. I have changed nothing else other than the type of food and concentrated on its pH value. You don't come across as rude. just uneducated on the subject matter. Not being a dick Luke, but how long did cavemen actually live? Can't deny that eating whole foods and fresh fruit and veg are excellent choices, but I honestly don't think basing one's diet philosophy on our uneducated, uncivilised ancestors is a great idea. | ||
davidhowarth | ... | 10-09-2012 @ 22:59 | |
Americans 'win' with cheese Member 2293, 1493 posts | luke00 said: just uneducated on the subject matter. And so it begins.. | ||
luke00 | ... | 10-09-2012 @ 22:59 | |
either Im a penis or Im not a penis Member 722, 2977 posts SQ 300, BP 220, DL 350870.0 kgs @ 123kgs UnEq | shanejer said:Oh and I don't know much on the subject just read a few articles but some say 60/40 some 75/25 and others different all in favor of alkaline but I pay little to no attention seems another way of saying "eat more fruit and veg" to me ' It's not just about fruit and veg, it's about processed foods and the bodys inability to deal with it due to is acidity. | ||
MattD90 | ... | 10-09-2012 @ 22:59 | |
Skaven for the win !! Member 2490, 3589 posts SQ 180, BP 120, DL 230530.0 kgs @ 82kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 10.09.2012 @ 23:00 PM by MattD90 luke00 said: Back when we were cavemen, we ate alot alkaline forming foods - fruit, nuts, seeds, fish, plants etc, a lot of it would have been raw to. It is not about a fad diet, or new craze it's scientific fact that our bodies are meant to be alkaline. Our systems do not know how to cope with all this processed, acid forming food. I am not saying it will cure cancer what I am saying is if your body is functioning at its optimum and running on the fuel it was designed to use it will lipolise quicker and will grow better. I don't just read this stuff I put it into practice on myself and clients. Over the last 14 days I have eaten more food in terms of calories, but they have been more alkaline forming and nothing processed and I have dropped bodyfat and put on lean tissue, and have more energy. I have changed nothing else other than the type of food and concentrated on its pH value. You don't come across as rude. just uneducated on the subject matter. I would do some reading on Acid-Base homeostasis, and gastro-intestinal physiology. That's all I'd ask you to do. wikipedia will do | ||
luke00 | ... | 10-09-2012 @ 23:02 | |
either Im a penis or Im not a penis Member 722, 2977 posts SQ 300, BP 220, DL 350870.0 kgs @ 123kgs UnEq | brownbear said: Not being a dick Luke, but how long did cavemen actually live? Can't deny that eating whole foods and fresh fruit and veg are excellent choices, but I honestly don't think basing one's diet philosophy on our uneducated, uncivilised ancestors is a great idea. They must have done pretty well because we're all here. LOL They didn't design the diet, it's what they had available to them and our bodys worked with that. The human body hasn't changed that much but what we put in it has, due to mass production, laziness, fast foods, microwaves etc. | ||
shanejer | ... | 10-09-2012 @ 23:03 | |
Member 1307, 14110 posts SQ 355, BP 240, DL 370965.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq | luke00 said: It's not just about fruit and veg, it's about processed foods and the bodys inability to deal with it due to is acidity. Yeah well to me it is. I don't eat much processed stuff I trend to agree with Luke but in nutrition there is always conflicting opinions ! Some are paleo freaks some carb back load with cake lol! All seems to work ... | ||
luke00 | ... | 10-09-2012 @ 23:04 | |
either Im a penis or Im not a penis Member 722, 2977 posts SQ 300, BP 220, DL 350870.0 kgs @ 123kgs UnEq | MattD90 said: I would do some reading on Acid-Base homeostasis, and gastro-intestinal physiology. That's all I'd ask you to do. wikipedia will do Wikipedia, everything on there is gospel. I'll stick to scientific studies in endocrinology and the real life fact and figures I and my piers work with on a daily basis. | ||
shanejer | ... | 10-09-2012 @ 23:08 | |
Member 1307, 14110 posts SQ 355, BP 240, DL 370965.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq | luke00 said: Wikipedia, everything on there is gospel. I'll stick to scientific studies in endocrinology and the real life fact and figures I and my piers work with on a daily basis. Would you mind listing your days food? | ||
MattD90 | ... | 10-09-2012 @ 23:15 | |
Skaven for the win !! Member 2490, 3589 posts SQ 180, BP 120, DL 230530.0 kgs @ 82kgs UnEq | luke00 said: Wikipedia, everything on there is gospel. I'll stick to scientific studies in endocrinology and the real life fact and figures I and my piers work with on a daily basis. I was actually saying wikipedia will do because it's a) succinct and b) The articles on there on this topic are accurate. Hit pubmed if you must, or an up-to-date textbook. I think you'll quickly find you're wrong. All I need you to tell me is, are you actually suggesting that the pH of the food you eat can change ones bodily pH? (Nb not urine pH). brb eating a load of lemons and going to A&E with severe metabolic acidosis | ||
luke00 | ... | 10-09-2012 @ 23:17 | |
either Im a penis or Im not a penis Member 722, 2977 posts SQ 300, BP 220, DL 350870.0 kgs @ 123kgs UnEq | Morning - 6 whole eggs; 1 cup cooked oats; 5 tsp fish oil; piece fruit 10:30 - 30g brazil nuts; 220g cod; 1 cup cooked brown rice; broccoli 13:30 - 40g sunflower seeds; 170g chicken; 1 cup cooked brown rice, broccoli 16:30 - 40g sunflower seeds; 220g cod; 1 cup cooked brown rice; broccoli 19:30 - 140g beef; 30g brazil nuts; 1 cup cooked brown rice; sugar snap peas 22:30 - 6 whole eggs; 1 cup cooked oats; 5 tsp fish oil; sugar snap peas | ||
walker | ... | 10-09-2012 @ 23:18 | |
Does not need Advice, knows everything. Member 3505, 3510 posts SQ 295, BP 182.5, DL 290767.5 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | My nutrition is generally s**t, but I can lose or gain weight when I want to. Typically when working I'll have: Breakfast - Peanut butter on toast or cereal Lunch - Microwave rice with chicken or a Sandwich (sometimes something s**t) Dinner - Always something different depending where I am. If at home soemthing the Mrs has cooked, generally a meal with protein and carbs. Otherwise a takeaway or meal out maybe once a week. I'll generally have a protein shake with milk in the morning too, plus one with dextrose post workout. I also drink a couple of glasses of milk or mostly choco milk when at home. When off work breakfast is generally 4 scrambled eggs on toast, I just dn't have the time starting work at 8, and I can't eat that at work. | ||
luke00 | ... | 10-09-2012 @ 23:20 | |
either Im a penis or Im not a penis Member 722, 2977 posts SQ 300, BP 220, DL 350870.0 kgs @ 123kgs UnEq | MattD90 said: I was actually saying wikipedia will do because it's a) succinct and b) The articles on there on this topic are accurate. Hit pubmed if you must, or an up-to-date textbook. I think you'll quickly find you're wrong. All I need you to tell me is, are you actually suggesting that the pH of the food you eat can change ones bodily pH? (Nb not urine pH). brb eating a load of lemons and going to A&E with severe metabolic acidosis Use pubmed all the time. Please give me the names of the studies that quote the pH of your food and body doesn't matter and that we are not alkaline based. | ||
JamieG | ... | 10-09-2012 @ 23:22 | |
Tom's CNS is better than steroids Member 2886, 2973 posts SQ 190, BP 122.5, DL 210522.5 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | 6.30 - Pint o' full fat milk 10.30 - Tin of mackerel, fruit, yoghurt 12.30 - 200g brown pasta with tin of tuna, fruit, nutrigrain 16.30 - Train for 1 hour 19.00 - Chicken breasts with Veg and Potato Between 20.00 and 24.00 - around 3 large spoons of nutella and around 1 pint of lager. Average day. Not too bad really. Still weak as piss. | ||
MattD90 | ... | 10-09-2012 @ 23:22 | |
Skaven for the win !! Member 2490, 3589 posts SQ 180, BP 120, DL 230530.0 kgs @ 82kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 10.09.2012 @ 23:23 PM by MattD90 Body pH does have a narrow range and that range is slightly basic. But that's not what we were debating! You were talking about the pH of our food directly affecting our bodily pH. I feel I might start tearing my hair out I don't know if we can go any further with this | ||
brownbear | ... | 10-09-2012 @ 23:27 | |
Morrisons - rump - 7£ Member 2206, 11578 posts SQ 228, BP 150, DL 260638.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | luke00 said: Use pubmed all the time. Please give me the names of the studies that quote the pH of your food and body doesn't matter and that we are not alkaline based. I have never looked at the studies behind what you're saying. But empircal evidence suggests to me that the body's pH is not greatly affected by food we eat and our body is pretty damn good at regulating it. I see pH levels from U+E blood levels on an almost daily basis and the overwhelming majority are 7.35-7.45, These patients don't take any special care in their diet (in fact quite the opposite, they wouldn't be in hospital if they did LOL) | ||