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JonHarmisonIcon...23-04-2016 @ 23:26 
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josh_ains said:
yeh was expecting couple 250+ ones


My original plan was 240/255/270 but was fairly thrown off by not needing to push and then trying to get hyped last second for a 265


josh_ains said:
yeh was expecting couple 250+ ones


Ryan 11 dunc 12
josh_ainsIcon...23-04-2016 @ 23:38 
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yeh your technique looked pretty solid and thought you'd nail it that weight
JonHarmisonIcon...24-04-2016 @ 00:16 
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f**ked up my second quote, hope you figured what I meant though

Yeah, im pretty confident I got 270 in me, ive hit 240*5 and 262.5*2 before
josh_ainsIcon...24-04-2016 @ 00:22 
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JonHarmison said:f**ked up my second quote, hope you figured what I meant though

Yeah, im pretty confident I got 270 in me, ive hit 240*5 and 262.5*2 before


should be on for 300 with knee wraps then !
SparrowIcon...24-04-2016 @ 07:10 
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josh_ains said:
should be on for 300 with knee wraps then !


Most definitely!

Yeah I'm very surprised 240 won! Was that you Jonathan?
SparrowIcon...24-04-2016 @ 09:19 
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JonHarmison said:big ass bar isnt it? Ironminds are notoriously large diameter


I thought it was 50mm diameter like most axles?
JonHarmisonIcon...24-04-2016 @ 12:28 
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yeah sparrow, I was planning to open with 240, but got talked down after no one was opening past 200, so just went a comfy 230/240 I imagine around 280/290 in wraps if I learnt to use them. Not of fan of them the few times I have used them though, It's not the initial drive that tends to be my sticking point on a squat, it's phase 2 with hips through that gets me, wraps shouldnt really aid that too much tbh, unless I can use them to fire out the hole a little harder
JonHarmisonIcon...24-04-2016 @ 12:30 
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Sparrow said:
I thought it was 50mm diameter like most axles?


It was an appollons axle which I think you're right is 50mm, but from experience most axles ive used up to now in gyms and comps tend to be a little smaller, but then again, this was my first decent level comp tbh
JackIcon...24-04-2016 @ 12:50 
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Always good to see the Caveman find his typing skills! Thanks for your help as always Dan assisting with the humorous weigh in and contest.


DanCave said:
Think that is a load of s**te tbh... the axles are identical axles no difference whats so ever.
The difficulty you have with judging a squat is peoples opinion. Obv your opinion will be biased so not suprised that you didnt agree with that decision either.
The comp ran smooth and was finished last event at 3hours 45mins. Really dont see why every comp needs to take 6 hours plus..
Maybe instead of blaming other things you should accept that you just wernt strong enough on the day and use that to give you the drive to improve.
And your weigh in could of been so much simpler you where 106.7 fully clothed with a hoody on the full works. Instead of going away and sitting in a sauna jst get down to boxers and would of made it easy.
SparrowIcon...24-04-2016 @ 13:28 
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JonHarmison said:
It was an appollons axle which I think you're right is 50mm, but from experience most axles ive used up to now in gyms and comps tend to be a little smaller, but then again, this was my first decent level comp tbh


I think a lot of the hollow axles are scaff poles, which are 48.3mm diameter. The extra 1.7mm does make a definite difference if you're not used to it. Couple that with the smoothness and it will be significantly harder for sure.
SparrowIcon...24-04-2016 @ 13:30 
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JonHarmison said:yeah sparrow, I was planning to open with 240, but got talked down after no one was opening past 200, so just went a comfy 230/240 I imagine around 280/290 in wraps if I learnt to use them. Not of fan of them the few times I have used them though, It's not the initial drive that tends to be my sticking point on a squat, it's phase 2 with hips through that gets me, wraps shouldnt really aid that too much tbh, unless I can use them to fire out the hole a little harder


They are a pain in the arse TBH. You sound like you don't need them anyway!
DanCaveIcon...24-04-2016 @ 15:02 
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JonHarmison said:big ass bar isnt it? Ironminds are notoriously large diameter


I dont think the diameter of the bar was what stopped people, considering they allowed people to belt clean. Which to me is rediculous. I was suprised with the low number most definately with the axle, just a few year back this would be a 10+rep at a northern 105 qual....

The deads i was shocked to see only 3 people get double figures... again something that has slipped in recent years..

The most suprisinging to me of the entire day was the squat... do people just not squat these days? I just didnt understand it.

Jon your 240 was decent, but i knew 265 wasnt going anywhere as soon as you said it. You had just done 2 taxing events so i wasnt suprised to see you worn out. Like you say maybe a better choice of lifts would have had you finish abit higher.. atleast you can see you went wrong and will pick better next time... i made the same mistake at northern 105s few years back!
SparrowIcon...24-04-2016 @ 15:47 
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I agree, Dan.

With belt cleans, which I also don't agree with, I would expect near double figures for loads of guys.

I do think 10+ reps on 250 deadlift is impressive, but maybe that's just because I'm an awful deadlifter.

Squat though is weird! I'd've expected loads to be 250+ minimum!

Has the standard overall dropped? Or, as you say, do people just not squat (or axle)?
DanCaveIcon...24-04-2016 @ 19:01 
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Sparrow said:I agree, Dan.

With belt cleans, which I also don't agree with, I would expect near double figures for loads of guys.

I do think 10+ reps on 250 deadlift is impressive, but maybe that's just because I'm an awful deadlifter.

Squat though is weird! I'd've expected loads to be 250+ minimum!

Has the standard overall dropped? Or, as you say, do people just not squat (or axle)?


I think the weights shifted stand for themselves... the overall standard has dropped dramatically... then you get people complaining the comp was run to fast... if you pressed a 110kg axle 3 or 4 times you dnt need an hours build up before u deadlift 250kg a couple of times... there was plenty time onbetween events jst maybe people wernt strong enough....
unit94Icon...24-04-2016 @ 22:42 
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It is abit weird seeing such low numbers.

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