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milsy		...	13-07-2011 @ 12:43
Ne n coner a fuickex .ay ouse part we .be Member 1425, 4647 posts SQ 340, BP 227.5, DL 335 902.5 kgs @ 125kgs UnEq	My sister came to my gym once and she was doing some circuits. With light box sqauts I got her to do a 1 rep max and she did 100 kg easy I think its all down to genetics my ex could sqaut 60 kg for reps 1st time she tried and that was at just under 9 st bw she struggled to bench bar tho lol

jt		...	13-07-2011 @ 12:50
old age traveller Member 332, 7999 posts	i have known 2 guys 1 a builder the other a butcher pull 220kg at their first attempt both would of made great strongmen but were too lazy/not into it

Cuddles		...	13-07-2011 @ 12:55
Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280 620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator	Reflexions (the gym where Terry Hollands does some training) had a guy walk in off the street and pull 300kg. The guy was very retarded and didnt really understand what he was doing. He was also f**king huge. Definitely not 'Mr Average'.

Wayne_Cowdrey		...	13-07-2011 @ 13:21
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22871 posts	Lots of freakishly strong untrained people about, many of them women! Cuddles said: Reflexions (the gym where Terry Hollands does some training) had a guy walk in off the street and pull 300kg. The guy was very retarded and didnt really understand what he was doing. He was also f**king huge.

streak		...	13-07-2011 @ 13:31
they call him the streak Member 2002, 400 posts SQ 182.5, BP 130, DL 240 552.5 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	My mate failed a 60kg squat on Monday. He is 38 and quite 'well built'. He is completely untrained to be fair. No sports since u-12 football. He couldn't bench 60. He pulled an easy 100 tho!! He's up for progress :-)

terryhollands		...	13-07-2011 @ 13:34
9x WSM finalist! Member 662, 3372 posts	Cuddles said:Reflexions (the gym where Terry Hollands does some training) had a guy walk in off the street and pull 300kg. The guy was very retarded and didnt really understand what he was doing. He was also f**king huge. Definitely not 'Mr Average'. They build em big round here! And also retarded too!

Steve		...	13-07-2011 @ 13:57
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts	stainless said:I reckon i've trained hundreds of mr untrained average over the years so i feel i can give a decent estimate. Firstly though there's a whole world of a difference between what someone will lift and what they are actually capable of lifting,most untrained individuals will be capable of lifting more than their lack of technique,confidence etc will permit them to. Also most people,bear in mind we're taking mr average and not some one that's ever done a gym lift will be very uncoordinated and more likely buckle forward doing a squat,lift entirely with their back on a deadlift and bounce a bar off their chest on the bench.For this reason i aways start people off with easier to execute exercises that they are less likely to injure themselves on. Although most estimates of mr average give the example of a 70kg man,in my experience body weight doesn't always make a great deal of difference in an untrained individual.I've had guys in their thirties at 6ft 5 and 25 stone that could lift less than a 4ft 10 female client.I'm talking about someone that's been sitting at a desk for years not a manual worker.Any way from my experience if we are talking about say mr average being a guy in his thirties that has a desk job and has never trained then he would be able to do in the region of 40-50kg bench,50-60 kg squat and 60-70kg deadlift,and 30-40 overhead. I'd imagine to most on here those figures sound shockingly low but that is what in my opinion a mr average office worker is capable of in his first attempt. I think some of your figures for an average man in their mid thirties with a desk job sound quite high, not low. I suspect a significant percentage of mid thirties sedentary men simply couldn't do a squat

BenMac		...	13-07-2011 @ 14:11
'Looks like Ben Affleck according to Pagan' Member 876, 2506 posts SQ 220, BP 140, DL 260 620.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq	Steve said: I think some of your figures for an average man in their mid thirties with a desk job sound quite high, not low. I suspect a significant percentage of mid thirties sedentary men simply couldn't do a squat A friend of a friend is a PT, and he says the first thing he asks a new client to do for him during the initial assessment is perform a bodyweight squat. He says the amount that simply cant do it is huge.

Wiegieboard		...	13-07-2011 @ 14:30
as crimson as my last victims underclothing..... Member 899, 11371 posts SQ 180, BP 132.5, DL 190 502.5 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq	IrishMarc said:1 depends on the individual 2 depends on the individual 3 depends on the individual 4 depends on the individual I gotta totally agree with this. I think that some people (Tom Martin, Andy Bolton) are just made different from others (The original Mr Muscle, Me)

Dan		...	13-07-2011 @ 14:42
Dan is old fashioned. Member 27, 2028 posts SQ 240, BP 170, DL 255 665.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq	Some pretty varied figures here. For the record, my 12 year old son - who has not trained with weights - has squatted 45kg and benched 30kg. The squat was ass to heels, not parallel, he even paused at the bottom before coming back up ! This is the only time he has ever squatted, we were clowning about in my Gym one day, started at 20kg and worked up. An average adult male must be able to do double that, surely ? I would suggest that a few of our guesses are a bit short of the mark.

Dan		...	13-07-2011 @ 14:46
Dan is old fashioned. Member 27, 2028 posts SQ 240, BP 170, DL 255 665.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq	Second thoughts, my son is pretty active and fit, so I guess a totally untrained, out of shape adult maybe couldn't manage double that.

jt		...	13-07-2011 @ 14:54
old age traveller Member 332, 7999 posts	Dan said:Second thoughts, my son is pretty active and fit, so I guess a totally untrained, out of shape adult maybe couldn't manage double that. balance and flexibility are needed to perform a good squat some people just don't have it

Terminator		...	13-07-2011 @ 15:01
jerking is obviously great, Member 2521, 5072 posts SQ 240, BP 160, DL 290 690.0 kgs @ 111kgs UnEq	Cuddles said:Reflexions (the gym where Terry Hollands does some training) had a guy walk in off the street and pull 300kg. The guy was very retarded and didnt really understand what he was doing. He was also f**king huge. Definitely not 'Mr Average'. thats ridiculous, he can't have been untrained

martin		...	13-07-2011 @ 16:03
Why not just not get fat in the first place? Member 132, 1406 posts SQ 331, BP 200, DL 320 851.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq	Mr Average is useless. The average guy off the street is weak and has little/no co-ordination or balance. A full squat would be out of the question for at least 70% of people in my experience. The average gym-goer (already better than Mr Average for attending) is poor. Go for a swim on a Sunday morning in a leisure centre to take a look at the average bloke!

PeteHodgson		...	13-07-2011 @ 16:06
Has little understanding of the sugden Member 677, 11338 posts SQ 165, BP 125, DL 220 510.0 kgs @ 80kgs UnEq	martin said:Mr Average is useless. Go for a swim on a Sunday morning in a leisure centre to take a look at the average bloke! When I do that I end up feeling bad about my physique!! lol

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