Interesting and highly civil debate about the Jerk in Strongman

Well said! I prefer seeing a hitched lift especially in strongman cos it really shows you going balls to the wall you ain't cutting corners you just refuse to give up, sumo you greatly reducing the range of motion making it easier! Simples

Adam your just wrong - I mean totally wrong!!!

But it wouldn't be lessened, you are still taking the bar drom the floor to standing up. No different to power clean vs continental imo.

Sumo, you dont stand up straight, your feet are miles apart. It is a different end point.

C+J and cont clean + strict display different strengths, but the bar goes from floor to locked out OH with feet in same place in the end. So, full lift is completed.

I dont think sumo completes the lift, and wont until you are stood up properly like a conv deadlift

I can say they are not stood up becasue if you measured their standing height and the height they are "stood" at during a sumo pull, it would be drastically different.

If I am stood at less than my standing height i am not stood up

I am glad the best pullers pull conv, but that is not the case in all comps or classes.

I am sure i could win a loading medley if i only had to do 75% of the items the others were doing, to me it is the same thing

pretty much same views as JC. i thought strongman was supposed to look impressive and show feats of strength but watching a big assume-ably strong bloke jerk the same as a female oly lifter doesnt impress me.

personally im not keen on push press bcos as jc said oh shud test shoulder/tricep strength and altho push press does test this to an extent it still tests leg drive and technical ability. that said i still push press bcos id be at a huge disadvantage if i didnt and if i cud jerk more than my strict press id probably use jerks too

That is utter s**t mate, i pulled sumo for a session while others pulled conventional and measured the height and my range of motion due to my lower leg limbs being long i thought be intrested to measure. my ROM was greater than all the conventional deadlifts in the group so i cant agree at all with you there

has anyone tried doing a sumo deadlift and bringing the feet together at the end?

Sounds hard.

not your range of motion! the range of motion of the wieght - the higher it has to be pulled the mre strenght you need to do that! Simple mechanics!!!!

Was the ROM greater than your own conv dead?

No

it does, so therefore any perceived advantage of the sumo would be mitigated

how many sumo haters that think its cutting corners bcos of the less ROM, bench with an arch to lower ROM?

Your rom may have been longer than theirs, but it would be shorter than your conv ROM

My training partner has shorter arms than me, should I press less distance to compensate.

Your ROM is your ROM, other peoples are irrelevant to whether or not you are performing the full lift, a sumo deadlift does not result in you ending in a proper stood up position, so to me is not completing the lift.

Sumo is deliberately reducing the distance YOU have to lift, regardless of others

We shall have to agree to disagree im afraid

It is quite a good point, and one i had not really given much thought, as there is almost never bench in Strongman

I'd have thought it would make sense to dictate what the event was eg. Conventional deadlift for reps, max floor to overhead (any way possible) or Clean and press etc. Surely a detailed description of the event wouldn't be so hard and would surely level the playing field?

We shall indeed, but id much rather see a sumo pull in strongman (from someone who doesnt compete in strongman) than one those eye sores called a hitch which at times looks similar to an epileptic fit.