Getting stronger at same bodyweight
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| Rob |  | Getting stronger at same bodyweight | 24-09-2007 @ 22:37 |
 Does f*ck all for SugdenBarbell.co.uk Member 1, 7173 posts SQ 182.5, BP 110, DL 205497.5 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq Administrator | No real question here, just after any advice anyone who has stayed around the same weight category for a while can give. Most of my gains in the past came alongside 4 litres of milk a day, so this new approach of getting stronger without consuming everything in sight is a bit new to me!! How fast can you expect to get strong, what weight do you let yourself get to and any other advice!? | ||
| little_a | | ... | 24-09-2007 @ 23:04 |
 still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14374 posts | Originally posted by Rob... How fast can you expect to get strong? Expect nothing. It isnt a birth right. You earn it. | ||
| badboy007 | | ... | 25-09-2007 @ 11:12 |
Dirty little devil Member 138, 356 posts | Post Edited: 25.09.2007 @ 11:13 AM I have been around 90kg for my whole training career, just seems to be a weight I can maintain whatever, ie. eating, training etc.I went from 135k squat raw- 215 with wraps from the 1st year of uni to the third 75k bench press - 120k raw 180k deadlift - 235k deadlift in the same time frame So it can be done! I would add body composition changed though. Alot of it has to do with training with some great guys in Adlington, Alan, Andy, Joe and FatPete helped a great deal..and listening to 90% of what they said and taking it to heart. | ||
| Boar | | ... | 25-09-2007 @ 11:19 |
 Walk your talk Member 5, 25557 posts Administrator | Im new to this aswell, im hoping consistent hard training will pay dividends within a year, i think reaching the qualifying standard for the nationals is a great achievement i think its about 540 unequipped @ 90kg, cant find the spreadsheet thing on the BWLA site | ||
| Neil | | ... | 25-09-2007 @ 12:22 |
 For Kettle, For Country! Member 81, 1706 posts SQ 182.5, BP 120, DL 227.5530.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | I too am going to be strict with myself and not go higher than 90kg BW. I'm hoping since I'm a relative beginner that that still gives me plenty of headroom for strength gains. On verra. | ||
| badboy007 | | ... | 25-09-2007 @ 12:29 |
Dirty little devil Member 138, 356 posts | I think BW shows more in bench than anything else. If u wanna bench more, add weight and train triceps | ||
| Icepick | | ... | 25-09-2007 @ 12:42 |
 still a cock Member 55, 1213 posts SQ 50, BP 25, DL 55130.0 kgs @ 0.1kgs UnEq | If you're having to diet all the time, then you ain't going to be getting stronger anytime soon, and I would expect a diet of 4500-5000k cals to hold a 90kg frame. Which is quite a lot if you are not consuming empty calories, and it's enough to still make gains and be powerful. Having said that though, when I was 90k, I kept a good diet ate every 2 hrs with quality protein and carbs at regular intervals, slept well but I was still weak as piss. It all depends on your build. | ||
| badboy007 | | ... | 25-09-2007 @ 13:10 |
Dirty little devil Member 138, 356 posts | Yeah good points by Icepick! His deadlift speaks for itself anyway! | ||
| Neil | | ... | 25-09-2007 @ 13:39 |
For Kettle, For Country! Member 81, 1706 posts SQ 182.5, BP 120, DL 227.5530.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | Well quite! OK so I've just had a piece of peanut butter on toast (+ 1 chocolate biscuit eaten while standing up so I don't need to count that). I think I'm on my way! | ||
| Titch | | ... | 25-09-2007 @ 14:07 |
 One Sexy MoFo Member 101, 2470 posts | Originally posted by Icepick... If you're having to diet all the time, then you ain't going to be getting stronger anytime soon, and I would expect a diet of 4500-5000k cals to hold a 90kg frame. Which is quite a lot if you are not consuming empty calories, and it's enough to still make gains and be powerful. Having said that though, when I was 90k, I kept a good diet ate every 2 hrs with quality protein and carbs at regular intervals, slept well but I was still weak as piss. It all depends on your build. 4000-5000 calories? I think I'd vomit eating that amount of clean food. My diet is very bad though, granted.  | ||
| nico | | ... | 25-09-2007 @ 19:01 |
 just smoked Ed and Neil - EAT MY GOAL Member 120, 1582 posts | i'm looking at the opposite thing to you Rob. I want my bodyweight to go up along with my strength. I have had trouble getting up above 103-4kg in the past. Actuallly, when I rthink about this, it is more likely that I just haven't adjusted upwards enough my fod intake when I get to this weight, something I'll nail this time; This, allied to overcoming the "belly fear" will allow me to get up to 120 kg and then cut back down to 110kg, unless I bottle it first (morde than likely) Rob, how did you find the whole consume huge amounts of milk thing? | ||
| Rob | | ... | 25-09-2007 @ 19:33 |
Does f*ck all for SugdenBarbell.co.uk Member 1, 7173 posts SQ 182.5, BP 110, DL 205497.5 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq Administrator | It just got pretty natural to me once your body gets used to it. You s**t a lot at the start though, if you go for a milk binge I would build it up gradually and probably do some cardio too. I drank semi-skimmed as well, so it put a lot of fat on me, but it does get you big quick! | ||