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Which sport is king?

MrSmall		...	05-12-2009 @ 22:19
Gone and easily forgotten....... Member 331, 22298 posts SQ 185, BP 100, DL 230 515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq	Boxing!

Kelvin		...	05-12-2009 @ 22:30
New lemon on the block Member 817, 73 posts	Steve said: How many experienced weightlifters who actually know what they are doing do you know that are out there coaching and how many gyms will even allow you to do the lifts Im only speaking from my personal experience. I simply went to my local weightlifting club and they offered me coaching. All you need to do is go to your local BWLA division website and the club details should be on there. obviously this isn’t the coaching your going to get from a professional coach but it s good enough in my opinion.

Steve		...	06-12-2009 @ 00:11
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts	Kelvin said: Im only speaking from my personal experience. I simply went to my local weightlifting club and they offered me coaching. All you need to do is go to your local BWLA division website and the club details should be on there. obviously this isn’t the coaching your going to get from a professional coach but it s good enough in my opinion. I guess you've been pretty lucky - it's fine if you just happen to live somewhere near a club. How many BWLA Divisions actually have websites? (YNE has always been very organised compared with a lot of the Country) I can't find details on the BWLA site about any of the Divisions websites. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place.

jt		...	06-12-2009 @ 00:21
old age traveller Member 332, 8102 posts	aaron_lohan said: Listen if you think golf is so easy try it, its a hard game to play. if i wanted to hit a little ball into a little hole with a long stick i would have a game of pool

Kelvin		...	06-12-2009 @ 00:32
New lemon on the block Member 817, 73 posts	Steve said: I guess you've been pretty lucky - it's fine if you just happen to live somewhere near a club. How many BWLA Divisions actually have websites? (YNE has always been very organised compared with a lot of the Country) I can't find details on the BWLA site about any of the Divisions websites. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place. im lucky enough to live in Yorkshire so as you say its well organised. i haven’t looked for any other divisions, perhaps its harder in other areas and clubs might not be as welcoming.

thosebananas		...	06-12-2009 @ 06:08
Trophy Hunter Member 743, 3329 posts SQ 230, BP 130, DL 300 660.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq	Strongman for the everyday spectator..

Doc_D		...	06-12-2009 @ 11:24
please use accurate taxonomy in our communication Member 871, 469 posts SQ 240, BP 137.5, DL 262.5 640.0 kgs @ 89kgs Eq	Strongman has to be seen as the ultimate test of all-round strength. As for which of the three choices is the best for informed spectators - rather more subjective, and dependent on many factors. For the uninformed, strongman has to be the most visually impressive - people can't relate to a loaded bar in the same way that they can to a 'familiar' object. The relative proximity of viewing can also impart a visceral thrill.

MattGriff		...	06-12-2009 @ 21:04
Member 194, 3976 posts	kev said: i have to disagree. weightlifting is very technical yes but ppl are quick to right off our feats of strength as purely technical rather than a strong mother fker. ive grown up with ppl saying 'weightlifting is all technique'. it just isnt. Wigan said: I'm with you Kev. The 'weightlifting is all technique' bollox is played all too often. Suley didnt stand up with three times his bodyweight across his throat and then bang it overhead with just technique, he was one strong fker!!!! Gents, I think you have got quickly off your feet and missed what I actually said and Kev you seem to agree with what I say, but didn't get what I said to be honest. I said: Weightlifters have awesome technical ability and explosive power generation As it says there they have awesome explosive power generation – this cannot be achieved without strength which I assume people on here would understand being involved in the sports so I am far from playing any of that ‘bollox’

Wigan		...	06-12-2009 @ 21:16
a cynical old scrote Member 68, 6955 posts SQ 255, BP 132.5, DL 250 637.5 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq	MattGriff said: As it says there they have awesome explosive power generation – this cannot be achieved without strength which I assume people on here would understand being involved in the sports so I am far from playing any of that ‘bollox’ The bollox bit wasnt aimed at your post Griff, apologies if it appeared that way. As you rightly point out your post implied nothing of the sort. I think Kev and me were probably reacting to comments yet to come about weighlifting being all technique, as always happens in these sorts of discussions.

little_a		...	07-12-2009 @ 08:09
still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14379 posts	If by 'king' you mean which participants are more attractive to the opposite sex then it's a no contest. Just ask BOAR. He's had all sorts of people round at the shed but the sparks only really flew for Bob the dog once he'd had a sniff of Lemon Freshness. Pets can sense evel and they can sense buffness too, and you can take that to the bank.

Thing		...	07-12-2009 @ 08:47
a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290 770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq	i voted weightlifting as i think the technicality of the clean and jerk and the snatch are very demanding.

Cuddles		...	07-12-2009 @ 09:43
Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280 620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq	Definitely not weightlifting, that6 s**t all technique. Jump and flick.

MattGriff		...	07-12-2009 @ 10:12
Member 194, 3976 posts	Wigan said: The bollox bit wasnt aimed at your post Griff, apologies if it appeared that way. As you rightly point out your post implied nothing of the sort. I think Kev and me were probably reacting to comments yet to come about weighlifting being all technique, as always happens in these sorts of discussions. No worries bro, just wanted to make sure I hadn't given the wrong impression. Having recently adopted more of a weightlifting style myslef I find it awesome, but to just look at the shape (and usually the legs) there is no way these guys are not strong. I say to anyone on here thats 105kg or above to hold 200kg overhead, I don't care if you pick it up with locked arms somehow to support that weight is bloody strong, now imagine firing that from the floor! Christ most guys one here can't even bench that raw even big fatties let alone stuff it overhead. I suppose the argument could be that a strongman or powerlifter can adapt to the other if they were to focus on it, however adaption to weightlifting is much harder. However the weightlifter can adapt to the other two if they give it focus far far easier. f**k it I'm off the fence, weightlifting for me, while I find all strenght sports and awesome lifts impressive the leamon freshers just give me a hardon!

little_a		...	07-12-2009 @ 10:46
still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14379 posts	MattGriff said: the leamon freshers just give me a hardon! Stop teasing

Mon		...	07-12-2009 @ 13:27
Quite a funny Mon Member 371, 186 posts SQ 210, BP 172.5, DL 250 632.5 kgs @ 109kgs UnEq	MattGriff said: No worries bro, just wanted to make sure I hadn't given the wrong impression. Having recently adopted more of a weightlifting style myslef I find it awesome, but to just look at the shape (and usually the legs) there is no way these guys are not strong. I say to anyone on here thats 105kg or above to hold 200kg overhead, I don't care if you pick it up with locked arms somehow to support that weight is bloody strong, now imagine firing that from the floor! Christ most guys one here can't even bench that raw even big fatties let alone stuff it overhead. I suppose the argument could be that a strongman or powerlifter can adapt to the other if they were to focus on it, however adaption to weightlifting is much harder. However the weightlifter can adapt to the other two if they give it focus far far easier. f**k it I'm off the fence, weightlifting for me, while I find all strenght sports and awesome lifts impressive the leamon freshers just give me a hardon! I've started to realise just how strong you have to be. I was testing my jerk out the other day as Im new to it and I was walking it out of a squat rack across my throat, Jerking overhead, holding, then lowering slow enough that I can walk it back onto the squat rack. I only managed 115kg (I weigh 100kg), but especially being not used to it, it was an amazing amount of weight to walk around with it across your shoulders. Felt it right through me. Then to lower it really hurt my shoulders. To think of people my bodyweight clean and jerking 240kg makes me shudder. Of course technique matters a hell of a lot. As Im finding out! Olympic lifters couldn't power clean 200kg to their clavicles with minimal squat and then strict press it. But that doesn't mean someone with good technique could lift 200kg just because they have good technique. I think beyond amazing strength, it takes phenomenal speed, perfect balance and fantastic flexibility. And executing a perfect and very difficult technique while handling anything over 100kg is so impressive IMO. And I agree that strongmen and PL couldn't always adapt to WL, but its easier the other way round. But then strongmen have the ability to execute such a wide range of lifts and can have excellent fitness and endurance. Something PL and WL dont need as much.

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