Leg Press in Powerlifting Discussion
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| littlegirlbunny |  | Littlegirlbunny's training log | 19-09-2006 @ 11:37 |
 MIA Member 7, 621 posts SQ 80, BP 45, DL 125250.0 kgs @ 55kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 19.09.2006 @ 11:38 AM Leg Press Discussion | ||
| Emperor_Naseem | | ... | 20-09-2006 @ 02:26 |
 As seen on t-nation Member 8, 192 posts SQ 170, BP 125, DL 220515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | Is there any particular reason why you are doing the leg press? If your goal is to just increase the 3 big lifts I would ditch them, as they won't add anything extra. | ||
| Adam | | ... | 20-09-2006 @ 11:42 |
Gone squatting Member 12, 386 posts SQ 250, BP 155, DL 260665.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | I'm sorry Harris but you're talking s**te. Leg press is a great way to build strength in the hams and quads. I have made my best progress on squats when i have been using leg press as an assistance exercise. My deadlifts have also improved because i get so much drive off the floor. | ||
| Emperor_Naseem | | ... | 20-09-2006 @ 11:58 |
As seen on t-nation Member 8, 192 posts SQ 170, BP 125, DL 220515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | I disagree Add, I don't think it has much transfer to squats at all unless you are an absolute beginner. | ||
| Emperor_Naseem | | ... | 20-09-2006 @ 12:06 |
As seen on t-nation Member 8, 192 posts SQ 170, BP 125, DL 220515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | Secondly Addd, you might have been seeing more gains just because you were doing more volume. There is nothing to say that you couldn't have got better results doing a different leg exercise, like a few more sets of a squat variation. | ||
| Emperor_Naseem | | ... | 20-09-2006 @ 12:08 |
As seen on t-nation Member 8, 192 posts SQ 170, BP 125, DL 220515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | Thirdly, Addd, you say that the leg press is a great way to build strength in the hams and quads - well strength for what? - only leg presses. Is it a strength that transfers well to squats and deads, no. | ||
| Emperor_Naseem | | ... | 20-09-2006 @ 12:09 |
As seen on t-nation Member 8, 192 posts SQ 170, BP 125, DL 220515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | Now silence, the Emperor has spoken. | ||
| littlegirlbunny | | ... | 20-09-2006 @ 12:11 |
MIA Member 7, 621 posts SQ 80, BP 45, DL 125250.0 kgs @ 55kgs UnEq | I'm doing legpress because: * I enjoy them * I find they transfer over well to my deadlifts because the weakest point of my deadlifting is the use of leg drive, and the movement at the bottom of the leg press feels very similar to the movement at the bottom of the deadlift. Whether they transfer over to squats or not, i don't know to be honest, but I do know that they improved my leg strength when I was too injured to either squat or deadlift, and when I came back to going heavy on both of them I was surprised at the amount of strenght there. | ||
| Joni | | ... | 20-09-2006 @ 12:11 |
 left the country satisfied Member 10, 19241 posts SQ 240, BP 150, DL 270660.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 20.09.2006 @ 12:12 PM but mainly s**te  (replied to emperor having spoken)cycling assistance movements is a good idea, and leg press may have a role in it, so basically: can't hurt, go for it, good luck and stuff like that. | ||
| Adam | | ... | 20-09-2006 @ 12:12 |
Gone squatting Member 12, 386 posts SQ 250, BP 155, DL 260665.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | Why do you not think it has much transfer? Although the leg press at sugden is not a particularly good one, i still think its a worthwhile exercise. Consider bench, to get strong on bench you wouldn't just strengthen the lats, you would also strengthen the triceps with some sort of exercise, maybe even the shoulders. The same is for squats. Its important to strengthen the quads as well as the hamstrings, lower back, hips, etc. If all you did was good mornings for squat assistance, chances are you are not going to reach your full potential on squats because your quads are not developed enough. I would say that you have to focus on weak areas, ie, leg drive, hip strength, depending on what you need. | ||
| Rob | | ... | 20-09-2006 @ 12:14 |
 Does f*ck all for SugdenBarbell.co.uk Member 1, 7173 posts SQ 182.5, BP 110, DL 205497.5 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq Administrator | My view is that they probably are useful for deadlift drive much as front squats are - which I think are an even better assistance choice as they also give you carry over to push press and more obvious carry over to squatting. Like Joni said though, I think the secret to assistance work is trying it all and then picking what suits you. | ||
| littlegirlbunny | | ... | 20-09-2006 @ 12:16 |
MIA Member 7, 621 posts SQ 80, BP 45, DL 125250.0 kgs @ 55kgs UnEq | Secondly Addd, you might have been seeing more gains just because you were doing more volume. There is nothing to say that you couldn't have got better results doing a different leg exercise, like a few more sets of a squat variation. I disagree - my core gets tired way before my legs when im squatting. Therefore I start to fold under the bar easily and that is an injury risk. Plus, my back is still quite weak and prone to easily being overtrained by exercises such as the squat and deadlift. Thus leg press works my leg strength without the increased risk of injury which comes from squat variations. (especially when you are as uncoordinated as I am) | ||
| Adam | | ... | 20-09-2006 @ 12:20 |
Gone squatting Member 12, 386 posts SQ 250, BP 155, DL 260665.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | So does doing board presses only make you good at board presses? Does doing lat work only make you good at lat work? Does doing stiff deads only make you good at stiff deads? My point is you need assistance exercises, to get good at squats you don't just squat. I happen to think leg press is a great assisstance exercise. Of course not everyone will agree, people will find exercises that work better for themself than other exercises. | ||
| Emperor_Naseem | | ... | 20-09-2006 @ 12:25 |
As seen on t-nation Member 8, 192 posts SQ 170, BP 125, DL 220515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | Originally posted by littlegirlbunny... I'm doing legpress because: * I enjoy them * I find they transfer over well to my deadlifts because the weakest point of my deadlifting is the use of leg drive, and the movement at the bottom of the leg press feels very similar to the movement at the bottom of the deadlift. Whether they transfer over to squats or not, i don't know to be honest, but I do know that they improved my leg strength when I was too injured to either squat or deadlift, and when I came back to going heavy on both of them I was surprised at the amount of strenght there. If the weakest point of your deadlift is leg drive, then there are better ways to strengthen them than the leg press, eg. squat variations. Even if it feels similar to you at the bottom, the firing patterns will be completely different. If you enjoy doing them then fair enough. I just believe that there are better ways of reaching your goals. There is always, good, better and best. | ||
| Emperor_Naseem | | ... | 20-09-2006 @ 12:26 |
As seen on t-nation Member 8, 192 posts SQ 170, BP 125, DL 220515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | Originally posted by JDVeganMofo... but mainly s**te (replied to emperor having spoken)cycling assistance movements is a good idea, and leg press may have a role in it, so basically: can't hurt, go for it, good luck and stuff like that. Joni if what you think I am saying is s**te then give a proper reason for it. Phrases such as "can't hurt," "go for it," and "good luck and stuff like that" aren't really good points for discussion. | ||