Is a push pull actually strongman

Samthepigman said:
I agree it attracts those who partake in strongman,
But is it strongman?
Should people be able to set strongman records at these comps?

Samthepigman said:Maybe I'm not being very good at what I'm trying to get across.

The point I'm kind of making is like, comparing Football and 5 a side football. Football is the only true Football. It's not just kicking a ball around, it's played with a specific set of rules, for a specific amount of time, and with a specific number of players. If all these aren't followed, your not technically playing Football, officially anyway.

So what I'm kind of saying is, Strongman should also be defined by a certain set of conditions to make it "strongman".

Example: a competition consisting of a minimum of 5 events, all of which test a different aspect of strength, shoulder, leg, grip, back and functional (moving events).

Obviously there would be more conditions to make it Strongman, but that's just an example.

At the moment people just seem to call anything that involves lifting an odd object of some sort an official Strongman competition and break any record they feel like ?

Fatpete said:
Bench records set in bench only comps are separate from those set in three lift comps

LessThanLuke said:
Why 5?
I competed in a World Champs that only had 4 events. Was that not a strongman comp hah.
(For the record I think national comps should have a minimum of 6)

Samthepigman said:Another waffle I've been thinking about is, records should only be set at national+ level competitions.

I think it would help weed out the types that just come to strongman to lift a big single, e.g. deadlift, rather than competing in actual strongman competitions. It would help to try an ensure that strongman records were actually held by strongman competitors, and not just 1 trick ponies.

The 1 trick ponies would struggle to qualify to top end competitions. Rather than any tom dick or Harry breaking a world record at any competition his mate has organised

KevC86 said:
Can you give an example of this?
Every meaningful WR i can think of in strongman is held by a top level strongman.

jt said:
You could argue Mark Felix Hercules hold WR

Samthepigman said:Another waffle I've been thinking about is, records should only be set at national+ level competitions.

I think it would help weed out the types that just come to strongman to lift a big single, e.g. deadlift, rather than competing in actual strongman competitions. It would help to try an ensure that strongman records were actually held by strongman competitors, and not just 1 trick ponies.

The 1 trick ponies would struggle to qualify to top end competitions. Rather than any tom dick or Harry breaking a world record at any competition his mate has organised

jt said:
You could argue Mark Felix Hercules hold WR
Deadlift and stones though make him a 3 trick pony?
Imagine if you had to press 150 overhead to qualify for BSM WSM etc

Samthepigman said:I agree with what your saying about people who say, just log press like tom hibbert, which is one of the points I'm trying to make. If you don't compete in actual strongman competitions, then your not actually doing strongman. Your just doing a single lift for your own enjoyment. But in my opinion you shouldn't be able to just go and do these single lifts, and have it as a record over one which was done in an actual strongman competition