CrossSh1t are bringing back Oly Lifting

Gingy said:
first off: I like crossfit, I've recommended to friends that are a bit lost that they try it and they love it. It's a lovely mixed outlet for your typical failed athlete... oh snap!
The games are built around the training methods that crossfit endorces, they are not actually Random. e.g if the events were 5m ball of paper thrown in a bin followed by extreme ironing followed by max piss height I sincerely doubt he'd be the best suited.
You can not argue that he is adapted to any situation, he's very good in any Crossfit situation. Which is a finite, practicable set of skills.
The winner of the games is NOT, absolutely not, the best all round athlete on the planet! Like I've said before, Rich Froning could not compete in a Deacthlon after a years training (not successfully anyway) but the winner of the decathlon at London could train for a year and Take a large piss over the entire crossfit community from a height.
To think differently to this staggers me and I have absolutely not seen any evidence to the contrary (even on that lovely youtube channel).
I don't know what the current decathletes cnj and snatch because they don't go on about it like they're anything special but you can be certain if they bothered a 120/150 would be a bit of fun. Hell, people like HUGE_GUY destroy those weights off barely any oly training and I'm sure he'd be the first to admit he'd struggle to live with the top decathletes on the long jump alone (which I understand is his main event).
Because true top level athletes are hidden away just training and not videoing everything and being endorsed by food supplement x and clothes company y doesn't mean they aren't doing staggering feats of endurance and strength far beyond that of "The Tin Man".

shanejer said:Rich froning is an example mate.

Basically you talk bulls**t no point even trying to argue with you lol. Events for games are given like 5 days before i think.. no time to prepare .... it is all about your set of skills you develop and how well rounded you are.

If someone could train for 1 year and "take a piss all over them" don't you think the half a mil prize would somewhat entise them to do so?

Oh i guess not........ Cos it's not in London 2012

Gingy said:
I would never say that about boxing v marathon running. Boxers would have zero chance v marathon runners.
If a claim is made about this sport that it produces the worlds most rounded athlete then I'm afraid it becomes fair game to try and counter that claim.
I did use some fairly strong comparisons and perhaps was a tad carried away but the point I'm trying to make still stands. The best decathletes are the best all round athletes on the planet and would have a very good shot at the crossfit games given a relatively small amount of training. Crossfitters would not do so comparatively well if they were asked to do the ten events of the decathlon given the same training time.

slimsim said:
So YOU power clean 175kg but the worlds best decathlete's only power clean 140kg. Are you making these figures up? Struggling to get round 1500m is not a conditioning issue but a pacing one and I'd be surprised if they couldn't work to 85+% off their 1500m pace for extended periods.
I agree with pretty much everything Gingy has said. We are talking about the best athletes in the world. You don't think an Olympic gold could earn an athlete more than that in sponsorship easily? Daley Thompson - straight away you think Lucozade and Daley Thompsons Decathlon (if you're old enough to remember). The earning potential from an Olympic gold along with the status that goes alongside it means that the Crossfit Games aren't even on their radar and I doubt very much that money holds much lure to these guys anyway.

Gingy said:
To me they are impressive, for guys who are as strong as they are, given the way they've destroyed themselves over two days. I couldn't do it, you couldn't do it, Crossfit dude number 1 couldn't do it.
Also, a lot of these super strong cross fitters are super strong from sports they've done before hand or the super fit ones are fit from sports they've done before, not all I'm sure but tbh I really think the guys who excel at crossfit started by being pretty great at another sport but not quite good enough... hence the choice to go chase the money in a flourishing sport with relatively weak competition.

Steve said:
At the last Olympics I remeber one US commentator stating that a gold at the Olympics was worth at least $1,000,000 - I'm sure in a high profile event like decathlon it would be even more. As you say I doubt Crossfit prize money would lure multi eventers to give it a try.

MattD90 said:I think the main things crossfit haters hate about crossfit is:

- The elitism, I'm better than you cos I do snatches and don't use machines mentality
- The fact that some of them bang on about strength but then just deadlift 80kgx50 or snatch 40kgx30, with bad form
- The stupid words they make up like "metcon". I'd love to know (despite googling it to hell) what this actually means

Gingy said:
The guys at the olympics are the best athletes in the world.
Sport has to have a specific skill set element to it. It's all part of the mastery.
You make a good point that some other sports could hold the best all rounders. I only really back the notion that crossfit do not have the best athlete in the world which is what the sport seems to hang its hat on.

HUGE_GUY said:
I know a retired one. I wouldnt compare them to a decathlete or rugby player physically. What about iron men comps? I know they are weak as hell but the competitions they do are tougher than anything.
The best all-rounder isnt even in a sport i bet, because they wont stand out on antyhing.

sexymikehowarth said:
If you read the thread again from the beginning it makes for interesting reading
Maybe your feathers were already ruffled
On the plus side as well as yours there are some very well balanced opinions and interesting perspectives

sexymikehowarth said:Would still be nice to see where all this crossfit "hate" is in the thread if somebody could quote that would be great

It does look like this is a touchy subject to those who are very very pro crossfit to the point of the cult culture we see alot of

Sparrow said:
Reebok have pumped $290,000,000 (yes that's two hundred and ninety million dollars) in the last two years into Crossfit as part of a massive marketing campaign (so like it or not it's here to stay). One of the main things about the campaign is the desire to find 'the fittest on the planet' with good prize money. Surely you'd expect there to be loads of other athletes, ex army or whatever there battling it out for 250k? But no, it's full of Crossfitters... Doing standard events, or circuit training...
To put it across another way, here is a list of the exercises used at this year's Games:
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I think you sound like a typical Crossfit hater and are in fact massively underestimating just how phenomenal Froning and co. are...

Sparrow said:
People usually feel passionate about something for a reason Mike!