A deadlift question
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| Robbo |  | A deadlift question | 19-02-2019 @ 06:00 |
 When I have enough cash, I get a deep tissue. Member 465, 11029 posts SQ 240, BP 175, DL 302.5717.5 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq | Started deadlifting again and been working hard on them to get my strength up again. Now the question I have is.... Does anyone find that working deadlifts hard has a detrimental effect on the rest of their training for the next few days/week? I’ve found that my training suffers badly for the next 5-7 days and almost feel they’re counter productive to my training. Deadlifted last Monday and the rest of the week was a write off! Thursdays session I had to deload as I couldn’t do anything! I understand the whole cns thing and like to think I know how to train effectively after so long but working deadlifts into my routine always seems tricky as it seems to ruin my strength levels for everything else for a while Anyone else find this? If so, how do they work them into their training? | ||
| Wayne_Cowdrey |  | ... | 19-02-2019 @ 07:32 |
 Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22433 posts | Yes! They really used to mess me up. When I was doing strongman I preferred to be squat focused and do some farmer's DLs. Later on, I got into fronties/zerchers. | ||
| WILLSAN | | ... | 19-02-2019 @ 09:31 |
 Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16708 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | I do a 3 week cycle of heavy, medium, light. heavy knackers me. no idea how I used to manage training heavy every week. must be getting old! | ||
| LessThanLuke | | ... | 19-02-2019 @ 10:41 |
 his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | Yup. Pretty much why when I'm pushing for a deadlift PB or record everything else gets dropped. | ||
| RS86 | | ... | 19-02-2019 @ 15:51 |
Member 5201, 62 posts SQ 260, BP 180, DL 315755.0 kgs @ 94kgs UnEq | Robbo said:Started deadlifting again and been working hard on them to get my strength up again. Now the question I have is.... For me no, but I find squats do exactly that.Does anyone find that working deadlifts hard has a detrimental effect on the rest of their training for the next few days/week? I’ve found that my training suffers badly for the next 5-7 days and almost feel they’re counter productive to my training. Deadlifted last Monday and the rest of the week was a write off! Thursdays session I had to deload as I couldn’t do anything! I understand the whole cns thing and like to think I know how to train effectively after so long but working deadlifts into my routine always seems tricky as it seems to ruin my strength levels for everything else for a while Anyone else find this? If so, how do they work them into their training? | ||
| Robbo | | ... | 20-02-2019 @ 11:17 |
When I have enough cash, I get a deep tissue. Member 465, 11029 posts SQ 240, BP 175, DL 302.5717.5 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq | Interesting others feel the same, thought it was because I was getting old! Might try that system Will, and on the heavy week go light on the other stuff Wayne, I find that works best for me too, keeping the squats in plenty and then being able to do the other stuff! Increasing squat seems to help deadlift for me to an extent anyway | ||
| JB | | ... | 20-02-2019 @ 13:14 |
 Member 2338, 210 posts SQ 227.5, BP 150, DL 260637.5 kgs @ 106kgs UnEq | always deadlifted on a friday then had the weekend to recover for squats on a Mon-tues | ||
| BigMacca | | ... | 20-02-2019 @ 16:58 |
 understanding of the sport, little he has. Member 798, 9948 posts SQ 260, BP 150, DL 272.5682.5 kgs @ 82.5kgs UnEq | Tom Hibbert did a pretty good article on this recently; https://www.winning-performance.uk/periodisation-for-the-deadlift/?... | ||
| KevC86 | | ... | 20-02-2019 @ 19:05 |
 Member 5141, 4492 posts SQ 300, BP 180, DL 350830.0 kgs @ 130kgs UnEq | If anyone doesn't find this to be true i would question their notion of "training deadlift hard". A tough deadlift session is brutal, thats why mine tend to fall on a Friday so I've got the next day or two to rest. | ||
| DeanW92 | | ... | 20-02-2019 @ 19:56 |
Member 4496, 1446 posts SQ 240, BP 200, DL 300740.0 kgs @ 112kgs UnEq | Too much volume kills me and find that worse than high % of 1rm. Although i tend to do stiff leg deads instead of regular deadlifts as a bit less stressful and good carryover. People like pete rubbish and tom martin seem to go heavy very often, although they are exceptions maybe. | ||
| RS86 | | ... | 26-02-2019 @ 11:24 |
Member 5201, 62 posts SQ 260, BP 180, DL 315755.0 kgs @ 94kgs UnEq | KevC86 said:If anyone doesn't find this to be true i would question their notion of "training deadlift hard". Have done sessions where I have worked up to 5+ reps at over 3x bodyweight and I personally don't find it to be the case. Deadlift is one of my strengths though so I'm probs not comparable to most. Magnusson/Ortmayer calculated off a 300kg max at under 90kg bodyweight was hard training IMO.A tough deadlift session is brutal, thats why mine tend to fall on a Friday so I've got the next day or two to rest. Squats on the other hand floor me, a hard squat session can leave me feeling ill to the extent I actually feel like I have a flu building up lol | ||
| BigMacca | | ... | 26-02-2019 @ 13:53 |
understanding of the sport, little he has. Member 798, 9948 posts SQ 260, BP 150, DL 272.5682.5 kgs @ 82.5kgs UnEq | RS86 said: Have done sessions where I have worked up to 5+ reps at over 3x bodyweight and I personally don't find it to be the case. Deadlift is one of my strengths though so I'm probs not comparable to most. Magnusson/Ortmayer calculated off a 300kg max at under 90kg bodyweight was hard training IMO. Squats on the other hand floor me, a hard squat session can leave me feeling ill to the extent I actually feel like I have a flu building up lol I also find heavy squat sessions harder than heavy deadlift sessions. I think it's down to the fact I can squat heavy and when squatting, the load is constantly on your back throughout the entire set (just supporting the weight is a tough job for the low bar squatter). Give me a max set of 5 on deads over squats any day of the week  - When I hit 275kg for 4 on squats a few months back it wiped me out for about 4 days (and I'm used to squatting and deadlifting twice a week!) | ||
| RS86 | | ... | 26-02-2019 @ 14:15 |
Member 5201, 62 posts SQ 260, BP 180, DL 315755.0 kgs @ 94kgs UnEq | BigMacca said: Yeah I def think that has a massive bearing, your CNS is getting battered from the moment you unrack to rerack. For me it doesn't help that I am generally quite a weak squatter either hahaI also find heavy squat sessions harder than heavy deadlift sessions. I think it's down to the fact I can squat heavy and when squatting, the load is constantly on your back throughout the entire set (just supporting the weight is a tough job for the low bar squatter). Give me a max set of 5 on deads over squats any day of the week - When I hit 275kg for 4 on squats a few months back it wiped me out for about 4 days (and I'm used to squatting and deadlifting twice a week!) | ||
| Robbo | | ... | 26-02-2019 @ 19:47 |
When I have enough cash, I get a deep tissue. Member 465, 11029 posts SQ 240, BP 175, DL 302.5717.5 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq | Good link that Macca! | ||
| JackRevans | | ... | 02-04-2019 @ 14:04 |
 'There was also a sausage in my mouth.' Member 2477, 16481 posts SQ 190, BP 130, DL 235555.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq | I've been finding this to be a problem recently, which is strange because I never used to. For the past few weeks I've been going quite high volume conventional deadlifts which have included 1 set of AMRAP touch and go deadlifts. The next day I'm way weaker than I should be. | ||