training at altitude
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| ozzie |  | training at altitude | 20-04-2010 @ 04:08 |
 in the RAF not black sabbath Member 595, 516 posts SQ 170, BP 132.5, DL 230532.5 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | is this really true does it really work? ..... in a sense that it makes you fitter and stronger if you return to a 'normall level' and is it just cardio work or is it something that works for strength too? | ||
| Cuddles | | ... | 20-04-2010 @ 07:16 |
 Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator | As far as I know it is a widely accepted and proven fact within the science community. There is less oxygen in the air at altitude and your body compensates for this by producing more oxygen carrying red blood cells. I'm sure there are other effects too but that seems to be the most desirable and discussed. Cant see how this having anywhere near as much of an effect on anaerobic exercise though seeing as a higher red blood count would start to be important after you have exerted rather than during. Although I'm sure this would still have some positive benefits. | ||
| TobyCutler | | ... | 20-04-2010 @ 10:24 |
 Allegedly very strong, but only Carls word for it Member 682, 838 posts | The effects arnt permanent tho as far as im aware, good for short period but red blood celld return to normal as your body adapts to the normal atmosphere again | ||
| bigbadbish | | ... | 20-04-2010 @ 10:30 |
 A World class farmer Member 576, 3429 posts SQ 350, BP 200, DL 400950.0 kgs @ 136kgs UnEq | Yeah it does work BUT you need lots of time at altitude for it to have its full effect and as stated before once you return to "normal" altitudes the advantages don't last that long. It does have a massive effect though. I've played rugby 7s in Nairobi a couple of times and the Kenyans are so far ahead of the european guys when it comes to performing at altitude. We were all hanging out our arses at half time and they were all still going strong. We only had 3 days to aclimatise though... | ||
| Cuddles | | ... | 20-04-2010 @ 10:45 |
Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator | Isnt there a South American football team that hasnt lost at home for years because they play at such high altitude? Routinely beating Argentina, Brazil, Columbia etc. | ||
| MrSmall | | ... | 20-04-2010 @ 10:46 |
Gone and easily forgotten....... Member 331, 22298 posts SQ 185, BP 100, DL 230515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 20.04.2010 @ 10:47 AM by MrSmall Boobs. | ||
| terryhollands | | ... | 20-04-2010 @ 10:55 |
 9x WSM finalist! Member 662, 3372 posts | We talked a lot about this in South Africa as it was 2000m above sea level where we competed. It did feel different . Brian Shaw lives in Colarado where he lives at very high altitude and I was asking opinions on whether he thought it helped him keep his cardio really good even though he has put on like 4 stone in the last year or so. The consensus was that it can't do harm, lol. If you constantly train where the air is thinner then it will make a difference for sure! | ||
| Thing | | ... | 20-04-2010 @ 10:57 |
 a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq | Cuddles said:Isnt there a South American football team that hasnt lost at home for years because they play at such high altitude? Routinely beating Argentina, Brazil, Columbia etc. its Bolivia Oly. if i remember FIFA were thinking to ban games there as its an unfair advantage to the bolivian team. | ||
| Thing | | ... | 20-04-2010 @ 10:58 |
a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq | if i remember the SA Rugby union team this last few years has been training all there cardio at altitude and all the strength training at sea level. i think they were 4 week camps or something like that. | ||
| Rob | | ... | 20-04-2010 @ 11:00 |
 Does f*ck all for SugdenBarbell.co.uk Member 1, 7173 posts SQ 182.5, BP 110, DL 205497.5 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq Administrator | Cuddles said:Isnt there a South American football team that hasnt lost at home for years because they play at such high altitude? Routinely beating Argentina, Brazil, Columbia etc. Bolivia in La Paz is the one you're referring to I think? http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/may/28/bolivia.bolivia | ||
| Pompy | | ... | 20-04-2010 @ 11:02 |
 My opinions have run their course Member 694, 3112 posts | The US Olympic team train at Colorado springs as this is quite high above sea level. So it obviously works for some! | ||
| JC | | ... | 20-04-2010 @ 11:03 |
 technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 20.04.2010 @ 11:04 AM by JC Thing said: its Bolivia Oly. if i remember FIFA were thinking to ban games there as its an unfair advantage to the bolivian team. Aye, Neil is correct They are rarely beaten at home even though they are 51st in the FIFA rankings | ||
| IainKendrick | | ... | 20-04-2010 @ 11:13 |
 some nice relaxing jazz. Member 77, 12599 posts SQ 265, BP 165, DL 280710.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | O2 content is the same. Partial pressue is reduced though. Most that use high alltitude use a mainly 'live high - train low' approach so quality of training is not impacted whilst still obtaining benifical physiological changes that occur at higher alltitudes. | ||
| Cuddles | | ... | 20-04-2010 @ 11:14 |
Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator | Thing said:if i remember the SA Rugby union team this last few years has been training all there cardio at altitude and all the strength training at sea level. i think they were 4 week camps or something like that. Altitude makes a huge difference to rugby but not just fitness. Players are often able to kick the ball 15-20% further because the air is so much thinner. Can actualy have a big influence over the way teams play. | ||
| JC | | ... | 20-04-2010 @ 11:17 |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 20.04.2010 @ 11:17 AM by JC Cuddles said: Can actualy have a big influence over the way teams play. Is the main reason SA play no rugby at all in their own half, just ping the ball in the opposition half and play for territory | ||