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SteveIcon...24-03-2010 @ 12:37 
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tonyjb72 said:Exactly the point I was making. They may have been max sessions, but I bet they weren't to failure (and by this I don't mean you fail a max lift, rather to (almost complete) temporary muscular fatigue ).


Which is more stressful and taxing - one set to complete muscular failure on say 80% with maybe 5 or 6 reps or 5 or 6 singles on between 90% and 100%?

The total load and intensity are certainly higher for the singles.
little_aIcon...24-03-2010 @ 12:58 
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tonyjb72 said:Exactly the point I was making. They may have been max sessions, but I bet they weren't to failure


There's a couple of interviews on here with The Butcher T. Well worth a read. Old Ivan reckons he didnt like his lifters taking (their) max weights in comps. Now, as many top Bulgars were world record holders anyway you can only imagine that their max training sessions were done in excess of these WR's. Whether they ever had many failures or not I dont know.
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Steve said:
Which is more stressful and taxing - one set to complete muscular failure on say 80% with maybe 5 or 6 reps or 5 or 6 singles on between 90% and 100%?
The total load and intensity are certainly higher for the singles.


Quite right Steve, but I'm thinking more of multiple sets (BB style training inc forced dets, drops ets etc). I'll just leave it there. Multiple high intensity singles are certainly taxing, but I think one can do them more often than multiple sets of a lower intensity. FIN

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little_a said:
There's a couple of interviews on here with The Butcher T. Well worth a read. Old Ivan reckons he didnt like his lifters taking (their) max weights in comps. Now, as many top Bulgars were world record holders anyway you can only imagine that their max training sessions were done in excess of these WR's. Whether they ever had many failures or not I dont know.


I've had a read of them mate, very interesting stuff. Could only do it with full time athletes IMO though
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It has also been suggested Abadjiev used it as a method of controlling the excesses of the lifters - most weightlifters, given the opportunity, will go out and get pissed up every night whilst trying to shag anything in sight. By having them do multiple sessions a day they simply didn't have any spare energy.
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There's a vid somewhere on here where you see Abadjiev giving a party for his youngsters so they can 'enjoy themselves'. He also brought these young women to watch his lifters training. "These young women are beautiful, show them what you can do!"


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I've got this ironmind dvd, "wish you were there, unbelievable Bulgarians". There you can watch a lot of stunning stuff. Vannev, 77k, tried a 210k c&j like 4 or 5 times in a row!
little_aIcon...24-03-2010 @ 14:23 
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Steve said:most weightlifters, given the opportunity, will go out and get pissed up every night whilst trying to shag anything in sight.


Ahhh. The good old days. Lol.
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I liked the quote doing the rounds a few years ago:

Q - What do you do when one of your lifters stops progressing with your methods?

A - Get a new lifter.
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little_a said:
Ahhh. The good old days. Lol.


You class last week as the good old days? Wink
little_aIcon...24-03-2010 @ 14:26 
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Cuddles said:
You class last week as the good old days? Wink


Days long passed OJ, in fact TBH I was always a voyeur of the frolics, but with some of the nutcases on the teams it was always funny.
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Post Edited: 24.03.2010 @ 14:38 PM by Steve
little_a said:
Ahhh. The good old days. Lol.


It's what Marlow was designed for after Saturday's training at squads - get pissed, try and pull something.

Far more beneficial than all that training during the day.

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