| Eagle | Svend Karlsen - Strongman training without implements | 09-04-2013 @ 12:41 | |
Member 1000, 125 posts | I found this post on another forum and thought it may be of interest here: "I attended a seminar this weekend with Svend Karlsen. It was in a well equipped strongman gym, but he provided us with this program, partly because there were a few guys there who are trainers in commercial gyms, and partly because Svend started out in strongman without access to much equipment. It's a seven week program, based on sets of four in the big lifts. Shoot for a 10kilo improvement at the end of the cycle. So you start with 7x4 of a too light weight, but add weight and drop a set each week. Day one Press: 7x4,6x4,5x4,4x4,x4,2x4,1x4 Karlsen flys: 4x12, 20 seconds rest Incline press 4x4 add weight each week Flys 4x8-12 Crossover 4x10-12 Press plate 3x8-12 (press a plate between your hands, and extend hands out in front) Day two Squat/front squat 7x4,6x4 etc Karlsen squat 4x8-12 Stiff leg deadlift 4x8-12 Calf raise 4x20 Day three Close grip bench press 7x4,6x4 etc Push downs 4x8-12 Barbell curl 7x4,6x4 etc Hammer curls 3x8-12 Day four Deadlift 7x4,6x4 etc Seated row 4x8-12 Shrugs 4x20 He suggested alternating between back and front squats Barbell curls are power curls Run this for seven weeks, then spend a week doing singles and testing maxes, then a deload week. The deload week is light, set of 6-8 with a weight you can handle Take a day off if you really need it. A day off means sleep in, eat, relax and enjoy the day. Go for a three to four hour walk in the woods. Don't work to failure. If something goes really wrong and you can't do the proscribed reps, repeat it the next week. "It's very hard for a weight lifter to ever really be over trained. I know runners and cross country skiers who overtrain and are f**ked up for months or years, but you can't really do that with weights." One question I asked him, was if you have very limited time to train, and have to cut to the bare minimum, what do you recommend? He said train events." | ||
| chaos | ... | 09-04-2013 @ 13:09 | |
An amazing human being Member 2047, 17156 posts SQ 262.5, BP 170, DL 300732.5 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Not quite sure how htis helps you if you've no access to event equipment??? | ||
| drew | ... | 09-04-2013 @ 14:15 | |
I thought Joplin choked on a sandwich? Member 616, 8404 posts SQ 180, BP 130, DL 220530.0 kgs @ 78.8kgs UnEq | i still dont get a plate press? | ||
| kingham22 | ... | 09-04-2013 @ 14:19 | |
my face was on fire Member 494, 2394 posts SQ 250, BP 150, DL 320720.0 kgs @ 150kgs UnEq | drew said:i still dont get a plate press? sounds like a front raise using a plate? | ||
| slimsim | ... | 09-04-2013 @ 14:20 | |
My asshole is not watertight. Member 2926, 6051 posts SQ 217.5, BP 107.5, DL 225550.0 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq | chaos said:Not quite sure how htis helps you if you've no access to event equipment??? As much as I hate saying it.........the man is talking sense! For once! | ||
| Eagle | ... | 09-04-2013 @ 14:43 | |
Member 1000, 125 posts | kingham22 said: sounds like a front raise using a plate? Apparantly it's standing as you would for a front raise and then pressing a plate from your chest to arms length forward, so to the end position for a front raise. | ||
| AMG | ... | 09-04-2013 @ 16:05 | |
Member 3970, 183 posts SQ 200, BP 130, DL 245575.0 kgs @ 78kgs UnEq | What are the benefits Karlsen flys over normal lateral raises? | ||
| ursus | ... | 09-04-2013 @ 17:10 | |
Man up and have a fuckin coffee Member 2086, 9717 posts SQ 340, BP 252.5, DL 300892.5 kgs @ 158kgs UnEq | AMG said:What are the benefits Karlsen flys over normal lateral raises? They hit all three deltoid heads and helped him build the muscles reqd in the crucifix hold ...very good exercise | ||
| ursus | ... | 09-04-2013 @ 17:13 | |
Man up and have a fuckin coffee Member 2086, 9717 posts SQ 340, BP 252.5, DL 300892.5 kgs @ 158kgs UnEq | Eagle said: Apparantly it's standing as you would for a front raise and then pressing a plate from your chest to arms length forward, so to the end position for a front raise. thats correct mate it causes you to squeeze your pecs together like you would on a pec dec whilst pressing forward as you do on a bench press , and he used them as carryover for events such as the front hold . | ||
| ursus | ... | 09-04-2013 @ 17:14 | |
Man up and have a fuckin coffee Member 2086, 9717 posts SQ 340, BP 252.5, DL 300892.5 kgs @ 158kgs UnEq | drew said:i still dont get a plate press? imagine your praying but with a 45lber inbetween your hands you then press that to arms length and bring it back to your chest and repeat. | ||
| YeahJon | ... | 09-04-2013 @ 17:20 | |
Member 4480, 64 posts | "It's very hard for a weight lifter to ever really be over trained. Really? I always thought otherwise. What does everyone else think? | ||
| shanejer | ... | 09-04-2013 @ 18:08 | |
Member 1307, 14110 posts SQ 355, BP 240, DL 370965.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq | YeahJon said: Really? I always thought otherwise. What does everyone else think? Everyone has different opinions on that. Personally I think it depends on the level of the lifter . | ||
| IainKendrick | ... | 09-04-2013 @ 18:18 | |
some nice relaxing jazz. Member 77, 12599 posts SQ 265, BP 165, DL 280710.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | YeahJon said: Really? I always thought otherwise. What does everyone else think? I agree, in the main. You can certanly be overeached easily enough and have a transient decrease in performance aka strength. However this will return pretty quickly. One of the deffinitions of overtraining is a decrease in performance that is chronic in nature and does not return after a rest. Or words to that effect. Off course I think when most people say overtrained they usally mean they aint gaining henchness fast enough Back to actual overtraining; I would assume taking drugs that improve recovery would help, plus lower levels of out of training stress and adequate nutrition. It could also simply be how well conditioned you are to tye stress that you imposed and how carefully you have built that tolernace up. Finally simple individual differences. | ||
| Ramsay777 | ... | 09-04-2013 @ 21:41 | |
Member 3942, 1107 posts SQ 200, BP 160, DL 315675.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq | What are Karlsen flys? I'm interested after what Jay said about them. | ||
| YeahJon | ... | 09-04-2013 @ 22:34 | |
Member 4480, 64 posts | Karlsen flyes at 1:02. | ||