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ItsaSecret		...	06-09-2012 @ 16:00
close to being re-banned Member 3955, 822 posts SQ 200, BP 160, DL 250 610.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq	slimsim said: have you read it? Ryan789: What are your feelings regarding steroids? Lee Priest: I have never lied about what I use. That's what ticks me off. I tell the truth and no one believes me. Big cat: I believe you. I know you're not natural, but I know you don't use as much as most. Is your recuperation that good? What are we talking about? Stack one product? Two? Lee Priest: Offeason: Deca and Para, 2cc each for 6 - 8 weeks. That's it.

slimsim		...	06-09-2012 @ 16:08
My asshole is not watertight. Member 2926, 6051 posts SQ 217.5, BP 107.5, DL 225 550.0 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq	I fail to see the point you're making with the cut and paste. So you still disbelieve then, if so why? Because you're not capable of being built like that? Because 99.99% of people aren't capable of being built like that?

martinb		...	06-09-2012 @ 16:10
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5 677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq	slimsim said:I fail to see the point you're making with the cut and paste. So you still disbelieve then, if so why? Because you're not capable of being built like that? Because 99.99% of people aren't capable of being built like that? To be fair, Lee Priests mum was a bodybuilder, he was one from an early age, and he got a tattoo on his face I expect he was getting gear in his milk as a child!

Tom_Martin		...	06-09-2012 @ 16:19
No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 425 1050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	slimsim said:I fail to see the point you're making with the cut and paste. So you still disbelieve then, if so why? Because you're not capable of being built like that? Because 99.99% of people aren't capable of being built like that? For me it's because so many gear users take so much more.... are 1 in a million genetics plus tiny amounts of gear better than 2 in a million genetics plus st loads of gear? what i am saying is out of all the bodybuilders one will have top tier genetics and a fair few more will have ever so slightly inferior genetics. Say the top guy takes very little gear. One of the others will figure out he can bridge the slight genetic gap by taking 10x as much gear as the top guy. The top guys response will either be stick to his guns and carry on taking little and get overtaken, or take "st loads" like everyone else. Either way, you end up with the winner taking s**t loads of gear.

VanillaGorilla		...	06-09-2012 @ 16:21
the UK's leading expert in bio mechanics Member 1973, 7379 posts	Lee Priest at 22 years old. Definitely just a couple of 6 week cycles at 2ml a week. How can people even question the legitimacy of his claims? Barely even looks likethe dude trains.

ursus		...	06-09-2012 @ 16:24
Man up and have a fuckin coffee Member 2086, 9717 posts SQ 340, BP 252.5, DL 300 892.5 kgs @ 158kgs UnEq	VanillaGorilla said: Lee Priest at 22 years old. Definitely just a couple of 6 week cycles at 2ml a week. How can people even question the legitimacy of his claims? Barely even looks likethe dude trains.

ItsaSecret		...	06-09-2012 @ 16:35
close to being re-banned Member 3955, 822 posts SQ 200, BP 160, DL 250 610.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq	VanillaGorilla said: Lee Priest at 22 years old. Definitely just a couple of 6 week cycles at 2ml a week. How can people even question the legitimacy of his claims? Barely even looks likethe dude trains. i think he forgot to do the C of B&C

slimsim		...	06-09-2012 @ 16:40
My asshole is not watertight. Member 2926, 6051 posts SQ 217.5, BP 107.5, DL 225 550.0 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq	Tom_Martin said: For me it's because so many gear users take so much more.... are 1 in a million genetics plus tiny amounts of gear better than 2 in a million genetics plus st loads of gear? what i am saying is out of all the bodybuilders one will have top tier genetics and a fair few more will have ever so slightly inferior genetics. Say the top guy takes very little gear. One of the others will figure out he can bridge the slight genetic gap by taking 10x as much gear as the top guy. The top guys response will either be stick to his guns and carry on taking little and get overtaken, or take "st loads" like everyone else. Either way, you end up with the winner taking st loads of gear. I can see the line of thinking if it was purely as race to get as big as possible, but there is more to BBing than just being big. As I've said in another thread recently I've seen 80kg guys beat 100kg guys simply by being ripped to death. The guy using a little may have natural superior lines which simply give him a more aesthetic look, using more could ruin his symmetry and cost him places. GH guts are a prime example of this happening when everyone tried to get as big as possible then suddenly guys are coming up with tight waist and taking scalps. This is going to end up like the thread that shall not be named and be locked soon! I don't know why I'm bothering TBH, BBing is a load of old bo*cks and placings are so political that it's ridiculous.

Tom_Martin		...	06-09-2012 @ 16:44
No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 425 1050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	slimsim said: I can see the line of thinking if it was purely as race to get as big as possible, but there is more to BBing than just being big. As I've said in another thread recently I've seen 80kg guys beat 100kg guys simply by being ripped to death. The guy using a little may have natural superior lines which simply give him a more aesthetic look, using more could ruin his symmetry and cost him places. GH guts are a prime example of this happening when everyone tried to get as big as possible then suddenly guys are coming up with tight waist and taking scalps. This is going to end up like the thread that shall not be named and be locked soon! I don't know why I'm bothering TBH, BBing is a load of old bo***cks and placings are so political that it's ridiculous. ah whenever i have shown the slightest bit of interest which was under ronnie's reign, it certainly appeared as if mass was the principal feature. it obviously may be different now, may have been different before, and may never have been even when i thought it was...

martinb		...	06-09-2012 @ 16:47
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5 677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq	Tom_Martin said: ah whenever i have shown the slightest bit of interest which was under ronnie's reign, it certainly appeared as if mass was the principal feature. it obviously may be different now, may have been different before, and may never have been even when i thought it was... I would suggest slim is talking about regional shows at the top, the big guy almost always wins remember when Cutler had that weird thing going on where one side of his body looked withered, HE STILL ONE BECAUSE HE WAS HUGE, symmetry (whatever that means in bodybuilding) meant squat

Tom_Martin		...	06-09-2012 @ 16:48
No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 425 1050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	ps. when any of us say these guys are on gear, were on when they claimed to be natural, or are taking more than they claim....it's not because of their superior symmetry and lovely flowing lines!

slimsim		...	06-09-2012 @ 17:02
My asshole is not watertight. Member 2926, 6051 posts SQ 217.5, BP 107.5, DL 225 550.0 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq	Tom_Martin said: ah whenever i have shown the slightest bit of interest which was under ronnie's reign, it certainly appeared as if mass was the principal feature. it obviously may be different now, may have been different before, and may never have been even when i thought it was... http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/2008/results/2... http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQNmZgC1zYplA-phT4nqMG... Couldn't find similar sized pics, but I think it's fairly evident how Phil Heath is much tighter in the midsection than the shot of Jay and Ronnie from the 2000 Olympia. Likewise with Dorian below in his first Olympia win http://dtopten.com/top10/images/2011/06/Dorian-Yates.jpg compared to his last http://stefangladu.com/powergym/galerie/YatesDorian_01.jpg I think there were a few s**tty years when all the pro's were chasing mass over class. All brought about because of Doz in reality! Think appear to be on the up with the current crop of pro's.

slimsim		...	06-09-2012 @ 17:11
My asshole is not watertight. Member 2926, 6051 posts SQ 217.5, BP 107.5, DL 225 550.0 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq	martinb said: I would suggest slim is talking about regional shows at the top, the big guy almost always wins No I'm not. If that was the case then Nasser El Sonbaty would have beat Dorian. Markus Ruhl would have beat Jay and Ronnie, Gunter Schierkamp would have won loads of comps as would have Lou Ferrigno. It's quite rare for the biggest guy to win as they rarely have the right conditioning as well and that's the key. When Dorian wins with a torn bicep it isn't because he was the best as the time it's because it's so political it's untrue and once you've got your position it tends to stick for a few years unless you do something ridiculous and look completely st. I've known people be told by judges that there were top 3 quality but because it was their first Mr. Britain they didn't feel it was right to place them higher than 6th. It's all a load of bo*cks.

vausie		...	06-09-2012 @ 17:13
in real life im massive like big fridge Member 1317, 7144 posts SQ 220, BP 147.5, DL 290 657.5 kgs @ 94kgs UnEq	did u ever win any shows si?

slimsim		...	06-09-2012 @ 17:23
My asshole is not watertight. Member 2926, 6051 posts SQ 217.5, BP 107.5, DL 225 550.0 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq	vausie said:did u ever win any shows si? fk you Vausie! Piss taking bas*d!

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