Time for an u120kg weight class?

robocop said:
If you look at the event choices for the last 5 years of 105s we have always tried to test the boundaries, but at the same time always kept a good balance of events.
We have max log and heavy deadlift this year but frame carry, truck pull, and sand bags test other dimensions of strength that static movements don't
I love to see some epic lifts but I see that in powerlifting, that's not strongman, I want the total package, static, grip, mobility, endurance, stamina, technical ability.
For me this is the whole point of strongman, it was created to pit athletes from all backgrounds against each other to see who was the best alrounder.
I think contemporary strongman is loosing touch with this at an alarming rate

ursus said:They did this in boxing and look at the state of that !! Soon ther will be dozens people going round as Britains strongest man/woman/child/muslim/hairdresser/ladyboy/Turk
There is something special about strongman and its history and you must be carefull to leave the heart and soul alone . Im all for development and improvement but just dividing and dividing often ends up with nothing left !

terryhollands said:
Totally agree. Strongman has always been about testing everything conditioning and speed included. I wanna see big log presses and big deadlifts but don't need to see them in every comp.
I did Serbia at the weekend it had no Deadlift and a Viking press for reps and it was actually really fun (apart from getting my arse handed to me by Ervin). I personally prefer to see head to head battles for reps than a max to be honest.

terryhollands said:
Totally agree. Strongman has always been about testing everything conditioning and speed included. I wanna see big log presses and big deadlifts but don't need to see them in every comp.
I did Serbia at the weekend it had no Deadlift and a Viking press for reps and it was actually really fun (apart from getting my arse handed to me by Ervin). I personally prefer to see head to head battles for reps than a max to be honest.

drew said:
So if you the 3rd strongest man in the world don't like dull comps and we the audience don't like dull comps why do they exist?

terryhollands said:
I have no clue. If it was my choice it would be different even if it didn't suit me. Strongman is as much about entertainment as it is a sport imo

drew said:
What do you think the best comp would look like out of interest

terryhollands said:
6 events?
Log for reps
Car Deadlift for reps
Some killer medley with say yoke farmers and loading
Truck pull
Shield walk or maybe a Hercules hold
And stones
I would run them all head to head (except the truck pull) or if enough equipment 3 or 4 at a time on the medley I love watching some of the medleys at wsm when 5 guys go at a time
I hate doing Shield walks but think it looks cool especially 2 at a time. Obviously if you did Hercules hold that would have to be a single too.
Also I wouldn't make things too heavy, I hate watching comps where guys struggle. I'd aim for the winner on Deadlift and log to get at least 10 but preferably 12

martinb said:
Wow how much better does that sound than max log, max dead, heavy yoke, heavy farmers, that seem to be the standard now

terryhollands said:
I think you could do 1 max but 2 is too many. Also dislike the new trend of doing farmers for 20m. Would rather see less weight but 40-50m

terryhollands said:
I think you could do 1 max but 2 is too many. Also dislike the new trend of doing farmers for 20m. Would rather see less weight but 40-50m

martinb said:
Imo farmers should be about grip and speed, not how much you can deadlift, far rather see 40m+