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| terryhollands | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 20:14 | |
9x WSM finalist! Member 662, 3372 posts | robocop said: If you look at the event choices for the last 5 years of 105s we have always tried to test the boundaries, but at the same time always kept a good balance of events. We have max log and heavy deadlift this year but frame carry, truck pull, and sand bags test other dimensions of strength that static movements don't I love to see some epic lifts but I see that in powerlifting, that's not strongman, I want the total package, static, grip, mobility, endurance, stamina, technical ability. For me this is the whole point of strongman, it was created to pit athletes from all backgrounds against each other to see who was the best alrounder. I think contemporary strongman is loosing touch with this at an alarming rate Totally agree. Strongman has always been about testing everything conditioning and speed included. I wanna see big log presses and big deadlifts but don't need to see them in every comp. I did Serbia at the weekend it had no Deadlift and a Viking press for reps and it was actually really fun (apart from getting my arse handed to me by Ervin). I personally prefer to see head to head battles for reps than a max to be honest. | ||
| fong | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 20:36 | |
really really interesting Member 3474, 2816 posts SQ 170, BP 120, DL 260550.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | ursus said:They did this in boxing and look at the state of that !! Soon ther will be dozens people going round as Britains strongest man/woman/child/muslim/hairdresser/ladyboy/Turk There is something special about strongman and its history and you must be carefull to leave the heart and soul alone . Im all for development and improvement but just dividing and dividing often ends up with nothing left ! 100% agree, if you keep dividing and dividing you end up with a 'diluted' title. terryhollands said: Totally agree. Strongman has always been about testing everything conditioning and speed included. I wanna see big log presses and big deadlifts but don't need to see them in every comp. I did Serbia at the weekend it had no Deadlift and a Viking press for reps and it was actually really fun (apart from getting my arse handed to me by Ervin). I personally prefer to see head to head battles for reps than a max to be honest. 100% agree as well. as cool as it is to see giants bust their balls over their max pull, it's more fun to see head to events and time runs. too many maxes may as well be a slightly unorthodox powerlifting comp. | ||
| drew | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 20:37 | |
I thought Joplin choked on a sandwich? Member 616, 8404 posts SQ 180, BP 130, DL 220530.0 kgs @ 78.8kgs UnEq | terryhollands said: Totally agree. Strongman has always been about testing everything conditioning and speed included. I wanna see big log presses and big deadlifts but don't need to see them in every comp. I did Serbia at the weekend it had no Deadlift and a Viking press for reps and it was actually really fun (apart from getting my arse handed to me by Ervin). I personally prefer to see head to head battles for reps than a max to be honest. So if you the 3rd strongest man in the world don't like dull comps and we the audience don't like dull comps why do they exist? | ||
| terryhollands | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 20:56 | |
9x WSM finalist! Member 662, 3372 posts | drew said: So if you the 3rd strongest man in the world don't like dull comps and we the audience don't like dull comps why do they exist? I have no clue. If it was my choice it would be different even if it didn't suit me. Strongman is as much about entertainment as it is a sport imo | ||
| drew | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 21:00 | |
I thought Joplin choked on a sandwich? Member 616, 8404 posts SQ 180, BP 130, DL 220530.0 kgs @ 78.8kgs UnEq | terryhollands said: I have no clue. If it was my choice it would be different even if it didn't suit me. Strongman is as much about entertainment as it is a sport imo What do you think the best comp would look like out of interest | ||
| terryhollands | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 21:09 | |
9x WSM finalist! Member 662, 3372 posts | Post Edited: 09.05.2012 @ 21:10 PM by terryhollands drew said: What do you think the best comp would look like out of interest 6 events? Log for reps Car Deadlift for reps Some killer medley with say yoke farmers and loading Truck pull Shield walk or maybe a Hercules hold And stones I would run them all head to head (except the truck pull) or if enough equipment 3 or 4 at a time on the medley I love watching some of the medleys at wsm when 5 guys go at a time I hate doing Shield walks but think it looks cool especially 2 at a time. Obviously if you did Hercules hold that would have to be a single too. Also I wouldn't make things too heavy, I hate watching comps where guys struggle. I'd aim for the winner on Deadlift and log to get at least 10 but preferably 12 | ||
| martinb | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 21:13 | |
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | terryhollands said: 6 events? Log for reps Car Deadlift for reps Some killer medley with say yoke farmers and loading Truck pull Shield walk or maybe a Hercules hold And stones I would run them all head to head (except the truck pull) or if enough equipment 3 or 4 at a time on the medley I love watching some of the medleys at wsm when 5 guys go at a time I hate doing Shield walks but think it looks cool especially 2 at a time. Obviously if you did Hercules hold that would have to be a single too. Also I wouldn't make things too heavy, I hate watching comps where guys struggle. I'd aim for the winner on Deadlift and log to get at least 10 but preferably 12 Wow how much better does that sound than max log, max dead, heavy yoke, heavy farmers, that seem to be the standard now | ||
| terryhollands | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 21:15 | |
9x WSM finalist! Member 662, 3372 posts | martinb said: Wow how much better does that sound than max log, max dead, heavy yoke, heavy farmers, that seem to be the standard now I think you could do 1 max but 2 is too many. Also dislike the new trend of doing farmers for 20m. Would rather see less weight but 40-50m | ||
| sexymikehowarth | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 21:17 | |
Full mask or nasal and chin strap? Member 3254, 2485 posts | terryhollands said: I think you could do 1 max but 2 is too many. Also dislike the new trend of doing farmers for 20m. Would rather see less weight but 40-50m This However anything "less weight" isn't popular on here For whatever reason | ||
| martinb | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 21:18 | |
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | terryhollands said: I think you could do 1 max but 2 is too many. Also dislike the new trend of doing farmers for 20m. Would rather see less weight but 40-50m Imo farmers should be about grip and speed, not how much you can deadlift, far rather see 40m+ | ||
| terryhollands | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 21:20 | |
9x WSM finalist! Member 662, 3372 posts | martinb said: Imo farmers should be about grip and speed, not how much you can deadlift, far rather see 40m+ Or for distance! Another one that seems to have disappeared | ||
| drew | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 21:21 | |
I thought Joplin choked on a sandwich? Member 616, 8404 posts SQ 180, BP 130, DL 220530.0 kgs @ 78.8kgs UnEq | Well the community definitely seems split into two sections I'm with terry on this. That comps sounds fun and a spectacle to watch | ||
| pandion | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 21:23 | |
Member 2407, 219 posts | I'd also like to see a throw. Not necessarily a massively technical one but a power event like the highland games. Weight for distance/height, stone put etc. | ||
| martinb | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 21:23 | |
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | This was the main reason I suggested the 120 weight class, cause I don't like the way open comps are going, but figure there is no stopping it Again, I will say, it tends to be better in Scotland | ||
| drew | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 21:24 | |
I thought Joplin choked on a sandwich? Member 616, 8404 posts SQ 180, BP 130, DL 220530.0 kgs @ 78.8kgs UnEq | While we moaning about modern events I think standard lifts (squat and dead) are rubbish and have no place. With the occasional exception of the top guys testing a max strapped hitched deadlift | ||
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