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hixxy1985Icon...06-07-2010 @ 10:43 
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definately got some very good points there tony mate.

We all want to see this sports progress. N at the end of the day we want bums on seats too as it all helps to fund the cause!
RobboIcon...06-07-2010 @ 10:48 
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Dissapointing really. Bust my ass all season, spend all my money, get through the qualifiers, feel like i did well at the finals and now cant even see the scores from the day.

Dont know how many points i finished on, where i placed in any events and what the gaps were between each placings.

This is a National Final. Dont see any point in continuing to participate in this sport if this is how its going to be.

Good points from Tony, and Craig, dont think the dummy needs to be spat. We all know and acknowledge how hard you worked under the circumstances. You did well with what you had on the day
CJTIcon...06-07-2010 @ 10:55 
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To be fair to Craig, he tried his best and loads of people let him down on the days coming up to, during, (and even after the event.) He worked damn hard to organise and run the event and I think did a really good job. Yes, there were problems with the presentation of the scoring, but that was due to the laptop breaking down at the event! This is hardly anyone's fault. A shame, but these things can happen!
MadcowdreyIcon...06-07-2010 @ 11:00 
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This was only a qualifier for the uks,, i dont no my points or scores and i dont really care!! the main thing that matters is qualifing for the uks final..!!!! this is the comp where you want to perform at your best, the winning gets to go to the worlds!!! yeah we dont no the scores but its history now.. those of you that qualified should be getting your heads down and training hard as f**k for the uks... as far as 105 comps go the uks is the big daddy.. Now lets all try and focus on taking that crown off woody... Good events for me here so im looking to do some damage
MadcowdreyIcon...06-07-2010 @ 11:04 
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CJT said:To be fair to Craig, he tried his best and loads of people let him down on the days coming up to, during, (and even after the event.) He worked damn hard to organise and run the event and I think did a really good job. Yes, there were problems with the presentation of the scoring, but that was due to the laptop breaking down at the event! This is hardly anyone's fault. A shame, but these things can happen!


spot on mate.. like i always say. Anything can happen in strongman, the same goes for organizing comps aswell.. s**t happens and sometimes there is nothing you can do about it..
RobboIcon...06-07-2010 @ 11:05 
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Post Edited: 06.07.2010 @ 11:11 AM by Robbo
Madcowdrey said:This was only a qualifier for the uks,, i dont no my points or scores and i dont really care!! the main thing that matters is qualifing for the uks final..!!!! this is the comp where you want to perform at your best, the winning gets to go to the worlds!!! yeah we dont no the scores but its history now.. those of you that qualified should be getting your heads down and training hard as f**k for the uks... as far as 105 comps go the uks is the big daddy.. Now lets all try and focus on taking that crown off woody... Good events for me here so im looking to do some damage


It was also the Englands Strongest Man u105 Final

What about the guys that didnt qualify? They have trained all season, put graft/money into it. They want to see their results. But cant. Acceptable?

Edit - Im sure you wouldnt just be calling the englands final a UK qualifier should you have won it.

On numerous occasions you have called yourself South of Englands Strongest Man u105. But that was only a qualifier for the final?
TonyIcon...06-07-2010 @ 11:08 
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Si I don't think the England should be dismissed merely as a qualifier. It's a title that everyone wants to win.

I agree that the uks is the big but dissparitys in scoring could well have cost someone a place there.

Would you still be so dissmissive of the scoring if you'd finished 11th robbing you of your chance at the uks?
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Madcowdrey said:This was only a qualifier for the uks,, i dont no my points or scores and i dont really care!! the main thing that matters is qualifing for the uks final..!!!! this is the comp where you want to perform at your best, the winning gets to go to the worlds!!! yeah we dont no the scores but its history now.. those of you that qualified should be getting your heads down and training hard as f**k for the uks... as far as 105 comps go the uks is the big daddy.. Now lets all try and focus on taking that crown off woody... Good events for me here so im looking to do some damage


You have obsession with beating this Paul Woods fella mate Grin

And "Englands Strongest Man" isn't just a stepping stone in the eyes of a fair few, you desperately want to beat Paul Woods at the UK's, that's fair enough, but I don't think everyone was as geared up only to qualify for the UK's as you, its not like the competition meant f**k all except that! It's a comp and a title in its own right.
CJTIcon...06-07-2010 @ 11:36 
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Tony said:Si I don't think the England should be dismissed merely as a qualifier. It's a title that everyone wants to win.

I agree that the uks is the big but dissparitys in scoring could well have cost someone a place there.

Would you still be so dissmissive of the scoring if you'd finished 11th robbing you of your chance at the uks?


I know for a fact that the scoring was done properly and fairly so the guys who did get through need not question their positioning. It's a shame that the results aren't available for public viewing, but they were available on the day and due to technical failure they don't seem to be available now. There was no issues with the scoring on the day and certainly if anyone had asked or brought it up as an issue during the comp it would have been dealt with. However, nobody did. People seem to wait until afterwards then moan about it on here when by this time, there is nothing anyone can do about it!
JoniIcon...06-07-2010 @ 12:17 
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CJT said:
I know for a fact that the scoring was done properly and fairly so the guys who did get through need not question their positioning. It's a shame that the results aren't available for public viewing, but they were available on the day and due to technical failure they don't seem to be available now. There was no issues with the scoring on the day and certainly if anyone had asked or brought it up as an issue during the comp it would have been dealt with. However, nobody did. People seem to wait until afterwards then moan about it on here when by this time, there is nothing anyone can do about it!


i guess this is a good time to introduce yourself mate?

There were issues on the day, but as far as i know they were dealt with then and there.

Also, we will now never know if there were issues or not because the scoring is not made public. It is not unfair for someone to think "if they let score sheets get blown away in the wind, maybe they were not too careful with them to start with".

This is just how it goes when you do not make scoring public. In every day strongman shows they dont matter much, but in national championships people tend to expect different.

I dont think anyone has any criticism of the scorers, as far as i know they did a good job. But again, we will never know. And even the best scorers do make mistakes, it has happened many times over, but its not a big problem if there is transparency.
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guys i remember on one event i asked my points. i did well on my next event and my position droped?? i could not work it out!! i may have finished 4th or 3rd.. but there is nothing i can do about that now. and if you ask paul and terry they will tell you that this was a qualifier for uks final.. and yes if i won the englands final i would be proud to say that im englands strongest man.. and yes i do feel sorry for the guys that did not qualifie.. i spoke to jon hobson before the comp and he said just do what you need to do to qualifie.. and thats what i did... uks and britains next and im really looking forward to them.. i underperformed big time at the englands mainly because i just did not want to do it... uks and britains i want to do and im looking forward to putting in the best performance of my life
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Robbo said:
It was also the Englands Strongest Man u105 Final
What about the guys that didnt qualify? They have trained all season, put graft/money into it. They want to see their results. But cant. Acceptable?
Edit - Im sure you wouldnt just be calling the englands final a UK qualifier should you have won it.
On numerous occasions you have called yourself South of Englands Strongest Man u105. But that was only a qualifier for the final?


mate since i started this sport the englands has always been a qualifier. it used to qualifie you to the britains but now its the uks.. and yes i am the south of englands strongest man and yes it was a qualifier.. if i won the englands i would be happy saying i won it and happy that its a qualifier... englands strongest 105 is a final in its own right but also a qualifier. craig has said he dont have the scores.. so we will never no. lets not dwell on this.. lets all lokk forward to the uks and britains.. this will be my 3rd year at britains so lets hope its 3rd time luckyGrin
DuncanIcon...06-07-2010 @ 13:00 
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Makes a mokery of it, no?
MadcowdreyIcon...06-07-2010 @ 13:01 
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MrSmall said:
You have obsession with beating this Paul Woods fella mate Grin
And "Englands Strongest Man" isn't just a stepping stone in the eyes of a fair few, you desperately want to beat Paul Woods at the UK's, that's fair enough, but I don't think everyone was as geared up only to qualify for the UK's as you, its not like the competition meant f**k all except that! It's a comp and a title in its own right.


if you want to be the best you have to beat the best.. paul is the favourite to win this again.. but the events also suit me this time.. Cleggers no's what im talking about.. there is nothing wrong with wanting to beat the best in any sport.. and you are right mate. the englands is a title in its own right. i cant change what happened there and i did lose points there but s**t happens lets move on. i would have beaten cleggers on the stones as they let the stop watch run as he was attempting the 200kg stone.. i went and said to rob that the 200kg stone was a bonus and cleggers needed a time for the 5.. if i had kept my mouth shut i would have won.. but i am a good sport and fair play to cleggers for trying to lift it.
craigmancIcon...06-07-2010 @ 13:13 
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Tony said:
Cracking attitude as a promotor your first and foremost priority should be looking after your competitors.
My only interest in any of this is providing a fair and professional arena for ALL athletes to compete in.



I think I did look after the competitors as everybody can back me up on that!! Also fair and professional area!! Need I say more? Indoors if it was outside people would of been ill big time. If people ate and drank during the day they would not of f**king moaned!!

Maybe next year it will be in some pub car park or some dusty s**t hole with second rate equipment that people will get injured with.

Like I keep saying seven events in seven hours was good going. Normally its 5 events in 4-5 hours with half that ammount of competitors!!

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