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matthewvc		Low rack pulls v normal deadlift	25-01-2018 @ 01:38
‘downsizing’ Member 5704, 3496 posts SQ 280, BP 210, DL 320 810.0 kgs @ 96.3kgs UnEq	Does anyone else find these unusually hard? Tonight I setup at gym with bar on lowest pin, plates pretty much scuffing the floor once 140+ loaded. Slight platform raise in rack put me at a small (inch max deficit). Any bend the bar would have at start is already gone as the plates hanging loose have already bent it, so the initiation is without any momentum whatsoever. Not done a rack pull for many a year now and was quite surprised at the utter deadweight feel at the start.

Oxman		...	25-01-2018 @ 06:48
Likes tight rubber Member 2981, 11067 posts SQ 242.5, BP 192.5, DL 330 765.0 kgs @ 92.9kgs UnEq	matthewvc said:Does anyone else find these unusually hard? Tonight I setup at gym with bar on lowest pin, plates pretty much scuffing the floor once 140+ loaded. Slight platform raise in rack put me at a small (inch max deficit). Any bend the bar would have at start is already gone as the plates hanging loose have already bent it, so the initiation is without any momentum whatsoever. Not done a rack pull for many a year now and was quite surprised at the utter deadweight feel at the start. Never gone that low but I did find 14" deads done in the rack were weaker from the floor at one point so brought them up and it increases my floor pulls...now anything off the floor is stronger so if its weak it may be worth hammering it. Also of course with rack pulls you get none of the bar bend before the pull so is tougher as you say. Only time I pull from that low is if I pause the dead, just inch it off the floor, pause then pull..nice alternative and good to train technique.

John		...	25-01-2018 @ 08:07
#biggef Member 5263, 3492 posts SQ 260, BP 195, DL 260 715.0 kgs @ 130kgs UnEq	Obviously I. No where near the leauge you guys are in but yeah at around 15" and under I find it harder than a pull of the floor, Danny boy told me this would be the case i have to say i was sceptical but he was spot on,makes sense I guess ....no momentum and maximum inertia ans close to the floor so further to travel, it's Intresting what oxman has said there I may employ that logic.

Wayne_Cowdrey		...	25-01-2018 @ 10:34
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22842 posts	Yes, a barbell sat on the pins can feel very dead. I always felt a vulnerable spot in my back on these movements and I always worried that it would pop instead of the weight moving, so I was mainly a squat focused strongman. I was OK with 18" though because I could wedge my knees under it

AdamT		...	25-01-2018 @ 12:01
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5209 posts	Post Edited: 25.01.2018 @ 12:03 PM by AdamT I do block pulls from 3 inches. I have been following programming from Mr Bolton and I find it's a great height to pull from. Certainly helped my lock out strength! I haven't pulled from a rack in years. they always say pulling from blocks/mats is similar to the floor.

matthewvc		...	25-01-2018 @ 12:38
‘downsizing’ Member 5704, 3496 posts SQ 280, BP 210, DL 320 810.0 kgs @ 96.3kgs UnEq	AdamT said:I do block pulls from 3 inches. I have been following programming from Mr Bolton and I find it's a great height to pull from. Certainly helped my lock out strength! I haven't pulled from a rack in years. they always say pulling from blocks/mats is similar to the floor. yes we've all been following his routine at ralls and we had a 3 week phase pulling off 2 inch blocks - most of us find this a very tough height to pull from esp conventional... it'll definitely bring your hammies up and help overcome the common grind point mid shin.

matthewvc		...	25-01-2018 @ 12:42
‘downsizing’ Member 5704, 3496 posts SQ 280, BP 210, DL 320 810.0 kgs @ 96.3kgs UnEq	Wayne_Cowdrey said:Yes, a barbell sat on the pins can feel very dead. I always felt a vulnerable spot in my back on these movements and I always worried that it would pop instead of the weight moving, so I was mainly a squat focused strongman. I was OK with 18" though because I could wedge my knees under it yes, the strain on back feels magnified - it's amazing how being able to exploit even maybe only 1-1.5 inches of bar bend with a stiff IPF bar is far more forgiving.

AdamT		...	25-01-2018 @ 12:50
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5209 posts	matthewvc said: yes we've all been following his routine at ralls and we had a 3 week phase pulling off 2 inch blocks - most of us find this a very tough height to pull from esp conventional... it'll definitely bring your hammies up and help overcome the common grind point mid shin. He had me pulling off low blocks for the first 6 weeks. I think he will have me pull from the floor the remaining. I thoroughly enjoy his programming. It certainly works for me!!

Wayne_Cowdrey		...	25-01-2018 @ 12:59
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22842 posts	AdamT said: He had me pulling off low blocks for the first 6 weeks. I think he will have me pull from the floor the remaining. I thoroughly enjoy his programming. It certainly works for me!! You should be focusing on martial arts training, in case I find you.

AdamT		...	25-01-2018 @ 13:11
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5209 posts	Wayne_Cowdrey said: You should be focusing on martial arts training, in case I find you. Right f**ker! Train station of your choice!!!!

JackRevans		...	25-01-2018 @ 14:51
'There was also a sausage in my mouth.' Member 2477, 16481 posts SQ 190, BP 130, DL 235 555.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq	AdamT said: Right f**ker! Train station of your choice!!!! Cannon Street

AdamT		...	25-01-2018 @ 21:06
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5209 posts	JackRevans said: Cannon Street You're under my radar now! I'll bring Megatron and we will beat you and Wayne to a pulp!

John		...	25-01-2018 @ 22:56
#biggef Member 5263, 3492 posts SQ 260, BP 195, DL 260 715.0 kgs @ 130kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 25.01.2018 @ 23:02 PM by John The last I saw of megaton he was very unhappy with one Mr Hall and lifted a log above his head in the woods !!! Meanwhile........I also find a massive diffrence between block pulls and rack pulls. Hold on is Megatron Brad castlberry's Father? Or PT perhaps

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