lying bench barbell row / bench press ratio

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neilakaconan		lying bench barbell row / bench press ratio	14-02-2015 @ 11:07
Member 2933, 511 posts SQ 200, BP 152.5, DL 232.5 585.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq	Just started doing the lying on a tall bench strict barbell rows. About a month now. Anyone know if there is a strict row/bench press ratio? As your back is bigger than chest should the row number be higher? im at 70 x10 strict row Compared to 110 x 10 bench

neilakaconan		...	16-02-2015 @ 10:44
Member 2933, 511 posts SQ 200, BP 152.5, DL 232.5 585.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq	No data then!

JackRevans		...	16-02-2015 @ 22:47
'There was also a sausage in my mouth.' Member 2477, 16481 posts SQ 190, BP 130, DL 235 555.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq	cba with rows

MaxCooper		...	17-02-2015 @ 09:42
1000 post points - NAILED Member 2026, 1344 posts SQ 195, BP 152.5, DL 235 582.5 kgs @ 94kgs UnEq	rows are good, dont worry about the ratio the form differences is far too much to directly compare and it depends on lever lengths that make the ratio different to each person: probably too much analysis IMO

slimsim		...	17-02-2015 @ 10:06
My asshole is not watertight. Member 2926, 6050 posts SQ 217.5, BP 107.5, DL 225 550.0 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq	MaxCooper said:rows are good, dont worry about the ratio the form differences is far too much to directly compare and it depends on lever lengths that make the ratio different to each person: probably too much analysis IMO Surely if you've lever are advantageous for bench then they are advantageous for rows and vice versa? I was always under the impression that your numbers should "roughly" be equal on both movements and have seen a lot of people around that split ratio, albeit on a bent over row rather than a lying row. Neil, maybe you struggled due to it being a new movement?

neilakaconan		...	17-02-2015 @ 10:12
Member 2933, 511 posts SQ 200, BP 152.5, DL 232.5 585.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq	slimsim said: Surely if you've lever are advantageous for bench then they are advantageous for rows and vice versa? I was always under the impression that your numbers should "roughly" be equal on both movements and have seen a lot of people around that split ratio, albeit on a bent over row rather than a lying row. Neil, maybe you struggled due to it being a new movement? Yep. It is a new one for me. That's why i wondered if the row numbers should match the bench numbers as i have no idea lol

MaxCooper		...	17-02-2015 @ 12:08
1000 post points - NAILED Member 2026, 1344 posts SQ 195, BP 152.5, DL 235 582.5 kgs @ 94kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 17.02.2015 @ 12:13 PM by MaxCooper slimsim said: Surely if you've lever are advantageous for bench then they are advantageous for rows and vice versa? I was always under the impression that your numbers should "roughly" be equal on both movements and have seen a lot of people around that split ratio, albeit on a bent over row rather than a lying row. Neil, maybe you struggled due to it being a new movement? maybe on the levers but theres just no comparison between the two other than the supposed plain of movement how can you compare the BO row to anything when peoples form ranges from this to this (didnt have the sound of teh last one but from the movenment of the guy hes a douche) IMO just focus on increasing the number for both whereever they start: in bench keep the form where its competition legal if you compete and in BOR keep the form where you feel it best in where you want to build


neilakaconan		...	17-02-2015 @ 18:03
Member 2933, 511 posts SQ 200, BP 152.5, DL 232.5 585.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 17.02.2015 @ 18:28 PM by neilakaconan Laying on a bench row is a strict row that keeps my form perfect. so not the same as in the 2 youtube clips. (Trying to find an example now......) http://instagram.com/p/zNlkqbSB08/

MaxCooper		...	17-02-2015 @ 19:29
1000 post points - NAILED Member 2026, 1344 posts SQ 195, BP 152.5, DL 235 582.5 kgs @ 94kgs UnEq	What I mean is when people say they should be a certain ratio you'll never replicate the way they did it in a way that benefits yourself as we'll in actually producing results regardless of using a bench etc as no one else is for their 'ratio'

pandion		...	17-02-2015 @ 21:19
Member 2407, 219 posts	neilakaconan said:Laying on a bench row is a strict row that keeps my form perfect. so not the same as in the 2 youtube clips. (Trying to find an example now......) http://instagram.com/p/zNlkqbSB08/ Try looking for prone rows i'm pretty sure thats what they're called

IrishMarc		...	17-02-2015 @ 21:23
no really Irish Member 1196, 5908 posts SQ 312, BP 230, DL 320 862.0 kgs @ 114kgs UnEq	Bench row is the s**t. 130 bench row PB done in the last 12 weeks Prob 190ish bench ATM

IrishMarc		...	17-02-2015 @ 21:24
no really Irish Member 1196, 5908 posts SQ 312, BP 230, DL 320 862.0 kgs @ 114kgs UnEq	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XrB8lLRio0

pandion		...	17-02-2015 @ 21:26
Member 2407, 219 posts	I remember reading that s&c coaches in the NRL used to get players to do pullups with a bench press width aiming for similar numbers with bodyweight taken into account.Was to deal with shoulder issues they came from imbalances from pressing. Imagine rows could be similar depending where you pull the bar to?

neilakaconan		...	17-02-2015 @ 22:08
Member 2933, 511 posts SQ 200, BP 152.5, DL 232.5 585.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq	IrishMarc said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XrB8lLRio0 I take it off pins in the rack to start so at full extension the weights can't touch the floor. Apart from that its the same exercise

CJR		...	18-02-2015 @ 09:56
Member 4145, 1331 posts SQ 172.5, BP 115, DL 220 507.5 kgs @ 100.4kgs UnEq	Prone rows will always be less imo, it's a way more strict movement than a bench press! Can't use your legs, can't arch, can't bounce etc etc.

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