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kingham22Icon...03-05-2014 @ 20:20 
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tore my knee cartilage in late 2009 stopped squatting immediately. deadlift didnt effect it. 2010 deadlift gainz were made
infact I havent had an off the floor pb since then
FazcIcon...03-05-2014 @ 20:25 
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dr_hazbun said:Fazc's suggestion of using the leg press isn't a daft one.


Doesn't even have to be the Leg Press, that's just something I've had luck with in the past. But if squatting that often f**ks you up, then Squat as often as you can and fill in the rest of the days with *something* to work the legs.

Just do something to fill in the rest of the Squat sessions and squat once a week or fortnight. Whatever you can manage.
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ChrisMcCarthyIcon...03-05-2014 @ 21:12 
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Countless people have made progress with their Deadlifts without squatting - I think you'll be OK.

As has been said, fixing the problem should be no 1 - having said that, some problems can't be fixed.
dr_hazbunIcon...03-05-2014 @ 21:22 
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kirkynick said:Yes, I did lunges (with a long stride). I also didn't do deadlifts, just high-rep weighted hypers.

Both deadlifts and squats went up; especially deadlifts.


Other people I know have had similar results and I find this fascinating; almost unbelievable.

I can understand ones deadlift improving without squatting at all (but continuing to train deadlift). Lots of people have done this.

But squat and deadlift improving without training either of them, I find difficult to swallow. You're not the first to say this though; I've heard it from others.
PAGANIcon...03-05-2014 @ 21:24 
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I didn't squat for my first two years of strongman. I put 90k on my deadlift. I did do a f**kload of sust however.
MattD90Icon...03-05-2014 @ 21:27 
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dr_hazbun said:
Other people I know have had similar results and I find this fascinating; almost unbelievable.
I can understand ones deadlift improving without squatting at all (but continuing to train deadlift). Lots of people have done this.
But squat and deadlift improving without training either of them, I find difficult to swallow. You're not the first to say this though; I've heard it from others.


Last 2.5 months for me, no change to diet -

No squats, no deadlifts, no front squats, no stiff legs.
However, 3x week leg press, GHR, leg extensions, DB lunges, leg curls, all sorts of rep ranges, chasing strength with 3-5 reps right up to drop sets for 20 reps

Result - 1" lost off legs and weak as piss.
FazcIcon...03-05-2014 @ 21:31 
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dr_hazbun said:
Other people I know have had similar results and I find this fascinating; almost unbelievable.
I can understand ones deadlift improving without squatting at all (but continuing to train deadlift). Lots of people have done this.
But squat and deadlift improving without training either of them, I find difficult to swallow. You're not the first to say this though; I've heard it from others.


I agree, can't see that happening unless you're putting on a lot of weight or just starting out.

PAGAN said:I didn't squat for my first two years of strongman. I put 90k on my deadlift. I did do a f**kload of sust however.


Sust? Assistance exercises?
MattD90Icon...03-05-2014 @ 21:39 
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PAGAN said:I didn't squat for my first two years of strongman. I put 90k on my deadlift. I did do a f**kload of sust however.


looool we need more posts like this
JohnIconintresting03-05-2014 @ 21:41 
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I'm doing an extra deadlift day instead of squats I having done squats to three weeks now I'll let you know when I'm finished how it effected squat PS I hate squatting :/
dannyboy73Icon...03-05-2014 @ 21:46 
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Just had 2 years off squats, Started back squating about 6 months ago, hit 221 2 months ago but not quite back just yet

Made sweet fa difference to my deads and event training whan I was not squatting.

But Jack, squatting gives you the stacked glutes that I sooooooo like so dont be stoppinWink
JackRevansIcon...03-05-2014 @ 22:16 
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Fazc said:
Sust? Assistance exercises?


Chortle chortle chortle
IrishMarcIcon...03-05-2014 @ 22:38 
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Box squat to limit depth and deadlift? Also see professionals for long term solution gainz.
AaronJIcon...03-05-2014 @ 22:47 
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Jack, no idea if this will be of any use to you at all, but when my knees were so bad that I couldn't squat, I found as Marc said above that I could squat to a box that put me literally at parallel (or an inch below) if I focused on sitting back and using my hamstrings more than my quads.

I only ever did that for about six months, but my regular squat actually went up in that time even though I was only doing box squats once a week. I didn't grind any though, they were all explosive.

YMMV
EvisIcon...03-05-2014 @ 23:04 
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do all squats hurt? Front and back?

Can you do pistol squats standing on a box with WL-shoes?

What about conventional deadlifts? As long as back is kept flat?

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