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Carl | ... | 13-08-2010 @ 12:05 | |
Loves rugby league ... Member 13, 14460 posts SQ 230, BP 180.5, DL 262.5673.0 kgs @ 128kgs UnEq Administrator | Wigan said: Cant dispute that Big Z is the stronger than Misha in many ways. That being said you cant fall back on the old argument that weightlifting is all technique. End of the day Misha can lift more overhead than Big Z and is therefore stronger than him in that discipline. however big Z can log and axle more than misha | ||
mikehowarth | ... | 13-08-2010 @ 12:08 | |
Not so much as forgotten as can't remember Member 894, 4924 posts SQ 245, BP 167.5, DL 272.5685.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | its views like the above one which probably created wsm and sm grip strength championships also and wrestling you could say should be added... its a complicated and subjective argument | ||
Wigan | ... | 13-08-2010 @ 12:10 | |
a cynical old scrote Member 68, 6844 posts SQ 255, BP 132.5, DL 250637.5 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | Carl said: however big Z can log and axle more than misha But neither are as heavy as Misha's clean and jerk, which is why I suggested an aggregate total across all disciplines to establish who is the 'overall' strongest. Personally I think it would be very close between Misha and Z doing this as i reckon Z would snatch and Clean and Jerk more than perhaps you are giving him credit for. | ||
MrSmall | ... | 13-08-2010 @ 12:11 | |
Gone and easily forgotten....... Member 331, 22298 posts SQ 185, BP 100, DL 230515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | Wigan said: But neither are as heavy as Misha's clean and jerk, which is why I suggested an aggregate total across all disciplines to establish who is the 'overall' strongest. Personally I think it would be very close between Misha and Z doing this as i reckon Z would snatch and Clean and Jerk more than perhaps you are giving him credit for. I don't think that Z would not be able to continental clean and jerk/press less than 230 odd. He can strict press over 200kg. And snatch he could probably nail something ridiculous and unexpected. | ||
JC | ... | 13-08-2010 @ 12:13 | |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Wigan said: But neither are as heavy as Misha's clean and jerk, which is why I suggested an aggregate total across all disciplines to establish who is the 'overall' strongest. Personally I think it would be very close between Misha and Z doing this as i reckon Z would snatch and Clean and Jerk more than perhaps you are giving him credit for. I agree with this. Although it may be more of a power snatch and power clean/iffy jerk with a pressout? I would think Savickas could "Clean and Jerk" 180-200? Anyoner know any 'facts'? | ||
Carl | ... | 13-08-2010 @ 12:16 | |
Loves rugby league ... Member 13, 14460 posts SQ 230, BP 180.5, DL 262.5673.0 kgs @ 128kgs UnEq Administrator | im not convinced he would be particularly good at power cleaning | ||
MrSmall | ... | 13-08-2010 @ 12:18 | |
Gone and easily forgotten....... Member 331, 22298 posts SQ 185, BP 100, DL 230515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | Carl said:im not convinced he would be particularly good at power cleaning http://www.layoutlocator.com/graphics/dldimg/8a125bae9822e6484... | ||
JC | ... | 13-08-2010 @ 12:18 | |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Carl said:im not convinced he would be particularly good at power cleaning I wasnt saying that mate...but I am s**te and can do 130 He is an absolute beast, and 180+ will be nothing to him, I'm sure | ||
Carl | ... | 13-08-2010 @ 12:19 | |
Loves rugby league ... Member 13, 14460 posts SQ 230, BP 180.5, DL 262.5673.0 kgs @ 128kgs UnEq Administrator | maybe, i'll tell you whats definate, smalls is a c**t | ||
JC | ... | 13-08-2010 @ 12:20 | |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Carl said:maybe, i'll tell you whats definate, smalls is a c**t Never been more sure of anything in my life | ||
MrSmall | ... | 13-08-2010 @ 12:24 | |
Gone and easily forgotten....... Member 331, 22298 posts SQ 185, BP 100, DL 230515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | Carl said:maybe, i'll tell you whats definate, smalls is a c**t http://api.ning.com/files/5tIaF97*hdwcdkgmTh41*xftG03mNHryjzNB... | ||
Wigan | ... | 13-08-2010 @ 13:05 | |
a cynical old scrote Member 68, 6844 posts SQ 255, BP 132.5, DL 250637.5 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | I wouldnt be surprised if with a bit of coaching Z could power snatch something around 170 and pwr clean and push press/push jerk around the 220 mark. Only a guess and only my opinion.. | ||
MrSmall | ... | 13-08-2010 @ 13:08 | |
Gone and easily forgotten....... Member 331, 22298 posts SQ 185, BP 100, DL 230515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | Wigan said:I wouldnt be surprised if with a bit of coaching Z could power snatch something around 170 and pwr clean and push press/push jerk around the 220 mark. Only a guess and only my opinion.. 209k strict after a clean! Don't see how he would do less than 500lbs. He's probably strict pressed that. | ||
Wigan | ... | 13-08-2010 @ 13:10 | |
a cynical old scrote Member 68, 6844 posts SQ 255, BP 132.5, DL 250637.5 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | MrSmall said: 209k strict after a clean! Don't see how he would do less than 500lbs. He's probably strict pressed that. I think Z's limitation would be how much he could clean, which is why I suggested the 220 mark, he would put anything he cleaned overhead. | ||
MrSmall | ... | 13-08-2010 @ 13:12 | |
Gone and easily forgotten....... Member 331, 22298 posts SQ 185, BP 100, DL 230515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | Wigan said: I think Z's limitation would be how much he could clean, which is why I suggested the 220 mark, he would put anything he cleaned overhead. If we're allowing push press then why not continental clean | ||