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FAT_SAM | ... | 24-03-2016 @ 23:04 | |
more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 3351015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq | cowie said:Previous forum banter aside at what age did you decide to start using and how far do you think you could have gone natty? It's all banter with me mate. Used since I was 16. That isn't something I would recommend obviously. I can do 300/220/300 off (well on TRT). That is testosterone levels equivalent to what a healthy male produces naturally. | ||
cowie | ... | 24-03-2016 @ 23:10 | |
Member 3740, 1584 posts | FAT_SAM said: It's all banter with me mate. Used since I was 16. That isn't something I would recommend obviously. I can do 300/220/300 off (well on TRT). That is testosterone levels equivalent to what a healthy male produces naturally. 16 WOW How old are you now then and you reckon your past usage has necessitated the use of TRT? | ||
FAT_SAM | ... | 24-03-2016 @ 23:12 | |
more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 3351015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq | 26. Yes! Definitely. I actually get prescribed it. | ||
cowie | ... | 24-03-2016 @ 23:21 | |
Member 3740, 1584 posts | FAT_SAM said:26. Yes! Definitely. I actually get prescribed it. I'm quite shocked TBH, I was thinking you was going to be nearer my age (45) Your obviously very well informed so hope that will save any major health issues in the future. | ||
FAT_SAM | ... | 24-03-2016 @ 23:27 | |
more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 3351015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq | cowie said: I'm quite shocked TBH, I was thinking you was going to be nearer my age (45) Your obviously very well informed so hope that will save any major health issues in the future. I intend to still be lifting and setting PBs in 20 years time. I spend time on just trt and not on loads so as to not burn out. The idea is to drop a weight class every 5 years from age 30 onwards. I am hoping to get to 1000kg raw total before then. | ||
cowie | ... | 24-03-2016 @ 23:33 | |
Member 3740, 1584 posts | FAT_SAM said: I intend to still be lifting and setting PBs in 20 years time. I spend time on just trt and not on loads so as to not burn out. The idea is to drop a weight class every 5 years from age 30 onwards. I am hoping to get to 1000kg raw total before then. My last PB was aged 43 (pre tri tear) and been training since 19 so definitely doable, shifting body-weight takes a bit more willpower tho. | ||
FAT_SAM | ... | 24-03-2016 @ 23:39 | |
more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 3351015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq | cowie said: My last PB was aged 43 (pre tri tear) and been training since 19 so definitely doable, shifting body-weight takes a bit more willpower tho. That's cool mate. Hope you make a full comeback from injury. I had acl done a couple years back. Not a pleasant experience. Well I am currently 151kg @ 5'9'' so haven't really got anywhere to go bodyweight wise other than down haha | ||
The_Lone_Wolf | ... | 25-03-2016 @ 08:24 | |
I eat a lot of meat Member 5124, 2997 posts SQ 245, BP 130, DL 275650.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | What sort of base did you have at 16 mate? Physically and also strength wise? Did you notice a steady rise in numbers over the years or mainly big jumps when you were blasting etc? | ||
93hopkinsonr | ... | 25-03-2016 @ 09:25 | |
Mr.Potato deadlift Member 2675, 4636 posts SQ 300, BP 200, DL 300800.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | Does being on trt affect fertility? And being 151kg at 5'9 is awesome | ||
FAT_SAM | ... | 25-03-2016 @ 22:44 | |
more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 3351015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 25.03.2016 @ 22:47 PM by FAT_SAM The_Lone_Wolf said:What sort of base did you have at 16 mate? Physically and also strength wise? Did you notice a steady rise in numbers over the years or mainly big jumps when you were blasting etc? My genetics are good. At age 16 natural I was able to close a number 2 captain of crush, bench 100kg, and run around a 12 second 100 metres. I was around 75kg lean when I joined a gym. I then went on and trained hard but had no clue what I was doing really. This lasted for about a year but then I came off with no pct, drank, went out and got pretty fat. I trained as a natural fatty before going back on at around age 20. At age 20, having done no drugs for about 2-3 years I was 130kg of fat, with 260kg squat no wraps, 165kg bench, 265kg deadlift and 130kg strict press. In those days I trained strongman style and never benched only cg for assistance. If I benched without hammering push press etc first I would have done 180kg paused with a very narrow grip. Since jumping back on then, progress in terms of body composition and lifts have been gradual.i generally improve all the time unless I am injured. Bench progression over the years 100kg age 16 140kg age 17 on gear 140kg age 19 natural and fat 180kg aged 20 (gear) 200kg aged 21 @ 110kg 220kg aged 22 @ 125kg 240kg aged 24 @ 145kg | ||
FAT_SAM | ... | 25-03-2016 @ 22:49 | |
more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 3351015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq | 93hopkinsonr said:Does being on trt affect fertility? And being 151kg at 5'9 is awesome Yes, my sperm count is currently 0. But that is down to me between 22 and 24 using literally a ton. It was one of the deciding factors for prescribing me trt. It will recover with hcg, which they will also prescribe. Haha it gets you some funny looks alright! | ||
FAT_SAM | ... | 26-03-2016 @ 00:27 | |
more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 3351015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq | My immune system is absolutely battered atm. Sucks not being able to afford HGH anymore after 2 years on it. No colds while on it then 4 colds in 2 months off it. | ||
drex50 | ... | 26-03-2016 @ 00:51 | |
It's a moonface era now. Member 5901, 956 posts | arent there in UK strongman/powerlifting society rumours about Halls'cycles and dosages? | ||
FAT_SAM | ... | 26-03-2016 @ 01:05 | |
more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 3351015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 26.03.2016 @ 03:04 AM by FAT_SAM I don't actually know Hall personally so don't want to comment on it mate. I wouldn't personally speculate in public on what sponsored athletes take as it can cause issues. I pay for it all myself so speak freely about supplement use. I total around 900kg and use 10ml most weeks and insulin. That doesn't mean stronger guys use more. However, gear is legal in the UK so athletes are generally quite generous with doseages. Out of respect please don't ask me to speculate on what other individuals use. More than happy to discuss my own experiences as you all know. | ||
scruffmcbuff | ... | 26-03-2016 @ 08:05 | |
Lovely ass Congrats. Member 5958, 2315 posts SQ 280, BP 170, DL 300750.0 kgs @ 138kgs UnEq | FAT_SAM said:My immune system is absolutely battered atm. Sucks not being able to afford HGH anymore after 2 years on it. No colds while on it then 4 colds in 2 months off it. Thats interesting. If i dont take a ton of l glutamine leading up to taking HGH i suffer badly with mouth and throat ulcers. Is this something you ever came across whilst using GH? | ||
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