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FAT_SAMIcon...26-03-2016 @ 10:52 
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Your hgh is causing your blood sugar to run high. Unsure as to how glutamine helps.
scruffmcbuffIcon...26-03-2016 @ 14:27 
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FAT_SAM said:Your hgh is causing your blood sugar to run high. Unsure as to how glutamine helps.


Fella at my gym is a bio chemist of somesort. He suggested it to me. It might seem obvious but how would you stop it happening?
drex50Icon...26-03-2016 @ 14:41 
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FAT_SAM said:I don't actually know Hall personally so don't want to comment on it mate.

I wouldn't personally speculate in public on what sponsored athletes take as it can cause issues. I pay for it all myself so speak freely about supplement use.

I total around 900kg and use 10ml most weeks and insulin. That doesn't mean stronger guys use more. However, gear is legal in the UK so athletes are generally quite generous with doseages.

Out of respect please don't ask me to speculate on what other individuals use. More than happy to discuss my own experiences as you all know.


i expected that answer

but don't u think when someone post his 10 000 kcal diet on facebook, should post a drug cycle hes running

just imagine 15 yo kid tryin to duplicate that died, iv seen a lot of natural fatties trying to get strong and what they find at the end is ...

low test because they are too fat and inabilty to get stronger

from my experience the more test i put the stronger i get, its a misconception that dosages are not that important
the problem comes when peope stop respond good to drugs and start use more
FAT_SAMIcon...26-03-2016 @ 15:11 
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scruffmcbuff said:
Fella at my gym is a bio chemist of somesort. He suggested it to me. It might seem obvious but how would you stop it happening?


Hgh with no insulin is asking for type 2 mate.
I personally would never run gh and no slin.
Not telling you to run slin just saying what I do based on what I have read.
When doing good quality hgh you should have a great immune system.
scruffmcbuffIcon...26-03-2016 @ 16:30 
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FAT_SAM said:
Hgh with no insulin is asking for type 2 mate.
I personally would never run gh and no slin.
Not telling you to run slin just saying what I do based on what I have read.
When doing good quality hgh you should have a great immune system.


Thanks for an honest answer mate. We need more of that! Haha
AdamTIcon...26-03-2016 @ 22:51 
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Your dosages are pretty high, but I expected more. I know a bodybuilder who weighs 105 with a 770 plus total, who uses higher dose. I know he uses 12ml or so, plus hgh (when he can afford) and insulin.
FAT_SAMIcon...26-03-2016 @ 23:10 
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AdamT said:Your dosages are pretty high, but I expected more. I know a bodybuilder who weighs 105 with a 770 plus total, who uses higher dose. I know he uses 12ml or so, plus hgh (when he can afford) and insulin.


Currently 1600mg test 700mg deca. So yeah not tons atm.

770@105 is strong.
FAT_SAMIcon...27-03-2016 @ 04:44 
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drex50 said:
i expected that answer
but don't u think when someone post his 10 000 kcal diet on facebook, should post a drug cycle hes running
just imagine 15 yo kid tryin to duplicate that died, iv seen a lot of natural fatties trying to get strong and what they find at the end is ...
low test because they are too fat and inabilty to get stronger
from my experience the more test i put the stronger i get, its a misconception that dosages are not that important
the problem comes when peope stop respond good to drugs and start use more


Of course. I made that mistake while I wasn't on gear and got so fat. 130kg pure fat at one point. This is called a 'dreamer bulk'. Naturals quite simply cannot eat like that and have a ton of sugar like you can with slin and other drugs.

I agree with that about dosages too. It is no coincidence that I benched 245kg while on one of the heaviest courses I ever ran. Was doing around 20ml a week then.
FAT_SAMIcon...27-03-2016 @ 05:59 
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Speed strict press (standing)
60x5
100x3
120x1,1,1
140x1,1,1
100x3,3,3,3,3,3
Really good bar speed. Pec/shoulder issue felt ok but still hesitant to push it. 180kg for a few standing would be cool soon

Upright rows
4 sets

Fat gripz pulldowns
4 sets

Wide pull down
4 sets

My press is still down a bit. Somehow buggered my left shoulder trying to seated press 80kg dumbbells last year.
AdamTIcon...27-03-2016 @ 10:09 
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Huge total is on this year Sam. Can't wait to see some monster weight shifted.
FAT_SAMIcon...27-03-2016 @ 15:14 
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AdamT said:Huge total is on this year Sam. Can't wait to see some monster weight shifted.


Hope so. My squat and pull are in their best shape ever (300x5 pull and 305x5 squat recently in the gym) but my bench is a little off.
TerminatorIcon...27-03-2016 @ 19:41 
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FAT_SAM said:

My press is still down a bit. Somehow buggered my left shoulder trying to seated press 80kg dumbbells last year.


That's a great weight for that exercise. Do you do this vertical, or more like Eddie does it?

FAT_SAMIcon...27-03-2016 @ 19:57 
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My best is 75x10 with the seat back 1 notch. I have vids of 75sx6 and 70sx9. I do all my seated pressing with around an 80 degree angle.
FAT_SAMIcon...27-03-2016 @ 19:58 
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Post Edited: 27.03.2016 @ 19:59 PM by FAT_SAM
Hall is doing incline presses there. Like that I have done 75sx15.

Hall is questionably even stronger with the angle higher, that is, seated DB style. Seen a vid of him doing 82kg dumbbells for 14 like that.
TerminatorIcon...27-03-2016 @ 21:11 
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FAT_SAM said:Hall is doing incline presses there. Like that I have done 75sx15.

Hall is questionably even stronger with the angle higher, that is, seated DB style. Seen a vid of him doing 82kg dumbbells for 14 like that.


Pretty ridiculous really. Makes you wonder if other big log pressers could match that, or if Eddie is in a league of his own in that respect.

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