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shanejer		...	10-05-2012 @ 13:22
Member 1307, 14110 posts SQ 355, BP 240, DL 370 965.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq	I think the reason lighter weigh classes help is because people like me and Hixxy I know would of never ever got involved if it was open only ! It opens the sport up to more people. But I think a 120 class would see people already involved (light opens heavy 105 guys) don't see it hurting but also don't see if taking off massively

davycummings		...	10-05-2012 @ 13:23
he's got betty davis eyes Member 1684, 6001 posts SQ 250, BP 186, DL 291 727.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq	terryhollands said:Let's be honest probably 50% of the open guys in Britain are around 130ish and carrying a bit of fat so these guys could easily make 120. I am not sure how this comes to be a reason not to have it, if it is actually where a great number of guys are? If 120 never happens its no big deal for me. I have only been doing strongman a couple of years, and can compete ok in opens in Scotland, I know i have plenty scope to improve. I dont mind keeping doing opens at all. However, I still cant get bapt the having 3 weight classes u105kg then nothing, despite half the opens and a number of the 105s being able to fit pretty well in to what would potentially be a very competetive 120 catagory. It would not influence the opens at the top level in any negative way imo, although i can see that it might siphon off some of the top 105 talent

martinb		...	10-05-2012 @ 13:27
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5 677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq	Ben_Something said: There are some 120-130 guys who arent strong enough to compete at open level who instead of getting stronger or just enjoying slightly lower standard comps want a new weight class introduced so they can feel competitive without ever having to maximise there poteintial. If you want to be competitive expect to train hard, if you dont want to train hard, enjoy the comps that are already out there. I don't know why I am arguing with you, I'm pretty happy with the comps in Scotland, I do fun lower level ones, and the national ones, and ideally the natty one this year. you are entirely missing the point of why I wanted u120, as most are, I don't think modern open comps test the areas that strongman comps should. I think u90 and u105 comps do that better, and perhaps that would migrate up to 120, as I doubt open comps will change any time soon

terryhollands		...	10-05-2012 @ 13:30
9x WSM finalist! Member 662, 3372 posts	davycummings said: I am not sure how this comes to be a reason not to have it, if it is actually where a great number of guys are? If 120 never happens its no big deal for me. I have only been doing strongman a couple of years, and can compete ok in opens in Scotland, I know i have plenty scope to improve. I dont mind keeping doing opens at all. However, I still cant get bapt the having 3 weight classes u105kg then nothing, despite half the opens and a number of the 105s being able to fit pretty well in to what would potentially be a very competetive 120 catagory. It would not influence the opens at the top level in any negative way imo, although i can see that it might siphon off some of the top 105 talent I think cause it just spreads the numbers around. The lighter classes get people involved that wouldn't do strongman otherwise where 120 is different. 120 guys can compete in opens. Saying all that if there was 120 comps run I would still support them as there would be nothing stopping the guys competing in both classes whether that be 105 and 120 or 120 and open

davycummings		...	10-05-2012 @ 13:35
he's got betty davis eyes Member 1684, 6001 posts SQ 250, BP 186, DL 291 727.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq	terryhollands said: Saying all that if there was 120 comps run I would still support them as there would be nothing stopping the guys competing in both classes whether that be 105 and 120 or 120 and open Exactly, which is why I cant see it causing any harm to the sport. Someone gaining some skill and confidence in 120 could possibly then go on to become a better open

chaos		...	10-05-2012 @ 13:59
An amazing human being Member 2047, 17156 posts SQ 262.5, BP 170, DL 300 732.5 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 10.05.2012 @ 14:00 PM by chaos shanejer said:I think the reason lighter weigh classes help is because people like me and Hixxy I know would of never ever got involved if it was open only ! It opens the sport up to more people. But I think a 120 class would see people already involved (light opens heavy 105 guys) don't see it hurting but also don't see if taking off massively This! I know for a fact I would never had got into this sport had i not found out about u105. I love this sport and maybe in 12 months or so I might have a go at an open competition but I have no desire to ever be 120k or over and I really don't want to go through what i did for the northern u105's again (to make weight)so an u120k would give me a nice stepping stone until I'm strong enough to do open's well (and by well I mean put in a good performance but more improtanlty enjoy myslef)!

LessThanLuke		...	10-05-2012 @ 14:27
his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420 890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq	Just my opinion but if you are 115-120kg and natural you are probably carrying a fair bit of fat (unless you're tall) so why not just get in better shape rather than create a class? If you are 120kg of muscle and you aren't strong enough to do ok at an open level then something is wrong.

martinb		...	10-05-2012 @ 14:29
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5 677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq	LessThanLuke said:Just my opinion but if you are 115-120kg and natural you are probably carrying a fair bit of fat (unless you're tall) so why not just get in better shape rather than create a class? If you are 120kg of muscle and you aren't strong enough to do ok at an open level then something is wrong. I am 6ft 2 and kinda look like I have aides at 105 but I might do it anyway

LessThanLuke		...	10-05-2012 @ 14:30
his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420 890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq	martinb said: I am 6ft 2 and kinda look like I have aides at 105 but I might do it anyway You'd only have to drop to around 110-112 seeing as most under105 comps have 24hour weigh ins these days it seems.

martinb		...	10-05-2012 @ 14:32
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5 677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq	LessThanLuke said: You'd only have to drop to around 110-112 seeing as most under105 comps have 24hour weigh ins these days it seems. not in Scotland!

LessThanLuke		...	10-05-2012 @ 14:33
his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420 890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq	martinb said: not in Scotland! That should change surely? Not really a fair playing field otherwise.

martinb		...	10-05-2012 @ 14:35
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5 677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq	LessThanLuke said: That should change surely? Not really a fair playing field otherwise. perhaps a debate for another thread, but IMO there should not be day before weigh ins

davycummings		...	10-05-2012 @ 14:36
he's got betty davis eyes Member 1684, 6001 posts SQ 250, BP 186, DL 291 727.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq	LessThanLuke said: martinb said: I am 6ft 2 and kinda look like I have aides at 105 but I might do it anyway You'd only have to drop to around 110-112 seeing as most under105 comps have 24hour weigh ins these days it seems. No chance Martin, you got to 117 last time and by then you couldn't lift anything

davycummings		...	10-05-2012 @ 14:38
he's got betty davis eyes Member 1684, 6001 posts SQ 250, BP 186, DL 291 727.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq	martinb said: LessThanLuke said: That should change surely? Not really a fair playing field otherwise. perhaps a debate for another thread, but IMO there should not be day before weigh ins x2, if guys need a 24 hour weigh in then they should be competing heavier, as they are heavier on the day. Say, just off the top of my head, in something like a 120 class with a same day weigh in

nick		...	10-05-2012 @ 15:06
finally got a tagline Member 1190, 2812 posts SQ 300, BP 200, DL 350 850.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq	25 pages now

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