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Severn Valley U 105kg comp with England wild card for winner.

jt		...	23-06-2010 @ 12:55
old age traveller Member 332, 8102 posts	Mobster said: Spot on. I'm seeing more and more (and Sugden can be the worse for this) complaints and negative comments (and yes I'm aware of the irony of saying so meaning I'm bching too) on how comps are run, how much it cost and so on. Those that promote know only too well that regardless of what you do, how well run something is and the like some fker will moan and b**ch. Equally, as a competitor (and promoter too) I understand the passion of wanting things to go well etc. But comments need to be constructive. Constructive in this context means not commenting at all. Either sign up or don't. If, as Rob says, many have said there's not enough events, then saying an event shouldn't go ahead because not enough signed up for it kind of shoots the idea of more events in the foot. It'd be better to get more mates involved and bang the drum yourselves so more take part than to be dismissive. Start to think in bigger terms. How, where and what the sport could be like if it was more popular. Then list, in a constructive way, helpful ideas here on Sugden (a la the competition day article). Or send a friendly helpful email to a promoter. Better still offer to help the promoter out! constructive critiscim a scoreboard is always helpfull make sure the mc is audible a running order for the competitors more boys to reset announcing what time the next event will start

Mobster		...	23-06-2010 @ 17:21
Member 775, 48 posts	jt said: constructive critiscim a scoreboard is always helpfull make sure the mc is audible a running order for the competitors more boys to reset announcing what time the next event will start Scoreboards cost money. When events have been done in doors organizers have connected the laptop to a projector. The PA thing was strange. We had a guy on the Saturday (didn't get his name but was a powerlifting ref) who I heard through the day. Rod did the mic Sunday and I know the PA was working but like many could barely hear what was said. If someone has a better PA and wishes to loan/hire it to us next year... There was a running order and competitors were told before hand. They were also asked to be in position ready. Some needed telling twice. At one point we asked for more help resetting. Some lads we would usually get help from also competed. Announcements re the next event was made. Stuff like 'we will have a short 10 minute break' being such.

WILLSAN		...	23-06-2010 @ 19:29
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16708 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225 495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq	I said:if this runs with any less than 8 or so I would question whether its worthy of a spot at the finals tbh. just my opinion... if that post was directed at me mobster I hope you will note that as above ^ I never suggested the event shouldnt go ahead (nor did anyone else as far as I can see) but that it was my opinion that if the comp ran with less than 8 it wouldnt warrant a spot at the finals. merely an opinion as I stated. and a view that was shared by others involved in the 105s too I believe.

Mobster		...	23-06-2010 @ 20:20
Member 775, 48 posts	Other sharing an opinion means little if they are wrong. Equally having one back you up if you're right still means you're right. The actual issue and probably the reason for making the comment is as to whether or not anyone going through in such a way either 1) earned their spot or 2) whether or not they'd be of a standard. It was already previously explained as to why any place was given (others had dropped out etc). As I understood it the SVSC originally had NO 105 event as suich and it was only added in the way it was to give someone an opportunity at a late stage. To then suggest such an opportunity might not be right... The greater issue and one previously discussed is the lack of a central association, federation and the like. Agreed and voted upon rules and the like would resolve such issues. In that way you'd not get a hard working and passionate 105 arguing for an opportunity because he'd have had one via the usual channels (proper competition). This doesn't happen and so we end up with discussions on the right and wrong (opinions naturally) of a place in a 105 competition. Of course, as above, if anyone gets a place without earning it as seen by others, then makes a mug of themselves on the field... well that's a shame because a better athlete should have had it. So start a FED!! Get the rules in place and avoid these debates. What can be annoying and destructive rather than constructive is that both athletes getting their places in a way others disapprove of and the critique of promoters trying their best. As secretary of the BHSA I'm quite hard on this. All too often I see comments made by those who equally as often do not compete. I ignore them. The internet, while very valuable in some ways, too too often allows unsolicited and lacking opinions a forum. I know you well enough to respect you and your opinion I hope you allow me the same. I may sometimes come across in a harsh and very direct manner but I AM looking in whatever way I can to do what little I can to move things forward.

jt		...	23-06-2010 @ 21:22
old age traveller Member 332, 8102 posts	i have made my last couple of scoreboards from plasterboard real cheap method and makes an interesting read for the plasterer afterwards

Mobster		...	23-06-2010 @ 23:07
Member 775, 48 posts	Mike used the same to ballast the barrels.

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