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WesIconDoes Shoulder work hinder your Bench ?13-02-2010 @ 11:44 
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I was told by someone a while ago (can't remember who) that doing heavy shoulder work actually hindered his progress on the Bench.

Can anyone relate to this ? The reason I ask, is that due to the fact that my Bench is s**t, I'm doing all I can to try and rectify it. I've dropped a lot of heavy shoulder stuff until recently, the thing is I enjoy doing it...

I realise a lot of it is down to the individual, but I was just wondering if it is a common issue.

Thanks !
MrSmallIcon...13-02-2010 @ 11:44 
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More to the point, does bench increase your overhead?
Wayne_CowdreyIcon...13-02-2010 @ 11:50 
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Heavy shoulder pressing will HELP bench pressing strength!
youngyIcon...13-02-2010 @ 11:55 
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What sort of weights do you put overhead? Your bench is not s**t really but it could be that your s**t overhead is holding your bench back Grin
Wayne_CowdreyIcon...13-02-2010 @ 11:56 
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MrSmall said:
More to the point, does bench increase your overhead?


Less carry-over that way round!
MrSmallIcon...13-02-2010 @ 12:15 
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Wayne_Cowdrey said:
Less carry-over that way round!


I'm going to give benching a go for a couple of months see if it helps at all.
With push press/jerk on weekends, bench midweek.
WesIcon...13-02-2010 @ 13:43 
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youngy said:What sort of weights do you put overhead? Your bench is not s**t really but it could be that your s**t overhead is holding your bench back Grin


I think my max Push Press is around 95 (ish).

I did think it may be holding me back a little...
bren35Icon...13-02-2010 @ 13:52 
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Wes said:I was told by someone a while ago (can't remember who) that doing heavy shoulder work actually hindered his progress on the Bench.

Can anyone relate to this ? The reason I ask, is that due to the fact that my Bench is s**t, I'm doing all I can to try and rectify it. I've dropped a lot of heavy shoulder stuff until recently, the thing is I enjoy doing it...

I realise a lot of it is down to the individual, but I was just wondering if it is a common issue.

Thanks !


yeah i used to have a problem with this mate but found if i spaced shoulders a few days away from chest they dont seem to cause each other problems?
WesIcon...13-02-2010 @ 13:57 
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bren35 said:
yeah i used to have a problem with this mate but found if i spaced shoulders a few days away from chest they dont seem to cause each other problems?


The thing is though, as I bench twice per week (heavy and speed), I thought it might suit best to do heavy push presses on heavy bench day and front and side raises etc on my d/e bench day ? Just trying not to do too much, but at the same time trying to 'tick all the boxes' so to speak... Happy
bren35Icon...13-02-2010 @ 14:15 
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Wes said:
The thing is though, as I bench twice per week (heavy and speed), I thought it might suit best to do heavy push presses on heavy bench day and front and side raises etc on my d/e bench day ? Just trying not to do too much, but at the same time trying to 'tick all the boxes' so to speak... Happy


i wouldnt be benchin twice a week mate and i think it would be difficult to make good gains goin with heavy bench and pushpresses same day,ive messed areound with various routines over the years and find unless i keep shoulders a few days away from benching,my front delts will reduce my benchpress a lot
lil_leeIcon...13-02-2010 @ 14:20 
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MrSmall said:More to the point, does bench increase your overhead?


mine goes through the roof when i get bk into benchin.... lots of close grip and a narrow grip for strict and i was away!
fatter_tomorrowIcon...13-02-2010 @ 14:42 
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once i started doing alot of overhead my bench shot up and i wasnt evan training it.
andydanjoshIcon...13-02-2010 @ 16:55 
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NO..

I think
bench will help shoulder press
shoulder press may help bench
incling bench is good for
shoulder press .

but my bench and shoulder press
are s**t .

Happy
MattGriffIcon...13-02-2010 @ 17:00 
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bren35 said:
i wouldnt be benchin twice a week mate and i think it would be difficult to make good gains goin with heavy bench and pushpresses same day,ive messed areound with various routines over the years and find unless i keep shoulders a few days away from benching,my front delts will reduce my benchpress a lot


There is a saying in the strength community that I do quite like (other than my fav from KK)

To press alot you have to press alot
good4gainsIcon...13-02-2010 @ 18:45 
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andydanjosh said:NO..

I think
bench will help shoulder press
shoulder press may help bench
incling bench is good for
shoulder press .

but my bench and shoulder press
are s**t .

Happy


your bench and shoulder press are s**t ????????

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