Deadlift help

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niall		Deadlift help	11-12-2015 @ 08:49
Member 5717, 10 posts SQ 140, BP 102.5, DL 170 412.5 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq	Struggling a bit recently with this and my 1rm has dropped. Could anyone recommend any tips on improving? Much appreciated

The_Lone_Wolf		...	11-12-2015 @ 10:21
I eat a lot of meat Member 5124, 2997 posts SQ 245, BP 130, DL 275 650.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq	So many variables that could be a issue towards this... 1) Training setup - Poor training protocols, too emphasis on deads, or not enough. 2) Nutritional approach... Cutting weight? Undereating? 3) Poor Recovery / Stresses 4) Poor quality insulina. We will need a bit more info on you, your approach and situation to help buddy.

niall		...	11-12-2015 @ 10:47
Member 5717, 10 posts SQ 140, BP 102.5, DL 170 412.5 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq	I know I don't eat enough and I have a few things going on oersonally which if could do without. Dunno what insulina is tho. Basically I need a good deadlift regime as I am just plodding along on my own at the moment, which I always have done but I seem to be going backwards now and not forwards. There's so much info online that finding something is harder than it should be. Hence I asked you guys for help

The_Lone_Wolf		...	11-12-2015 @ 13:19
I eat a lot of meat Member 5124, 2997 posts SQ 245, BP 130, DL 275 650.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq	What is your current training approach? Why is your diet crap too? Undereating is a crime.

edi86		...	11-12-2015 @ 15:07
Member 5548, 415 posts SQ 270, BP 157.5, DL 310 737.5 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 11.12.2015 @ 15:12 PM by edi86 Poor quality insulina lol i was same as you a year ago, got recommended by many here to get in touch with an online coach to get kickstarted (if there's no one at your gym).

niall		...	11-12-2015 @ 16:23
Member 5717, 10 posts SQ 140, BP 102.5, DL 170 412.5 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq	The_Lone_Wolf said:What is your current training approach? Why is your diet crap too? Undereating is a crime. Yesterday I done 3x3 @ 60kg 3x3 @ 80kg 2x3 @ 100kg 2x3 @ 110kg 2 @ 120 2 @ 130 2 @ 140 1 @ 150 I failed 160 twice. My max is 170

niall		...	11-12-2015 @ 16:23
Member 5717, 10 posts SQ 140, BP 102.5, DL 170 412.5 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq	edi86 said:Poor quality insulina lol i was same as you a year ago, got recommended by many here to get in touch with an online coach to get kickstarted (if there's no one at your gym). How do online coaches work?


unit94		...	11-12-2015 @ 16:35
what is everyone's fran time? Member 3986, 10449 posts SQ 340, BP 200, DL 400 940.0 kgs @ 129kgs Eq	niall said: How do online coaches work? You give them a load of info on your training and what you want to achieve then they design a programme for you.

Fazc		...	11-12-2015 @ 16:42
Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts	niall said: Yesterday I done 3x3 @ 60kg 3x3 @ 80kg 2x3 @ 100kg 2x3 @ 110kg 2 @ 120 2 @ 130 2 @ 140 1 @ 150 I failed 160 twice. My max is 170 Forgot all about 170, forgot about maxing out again for AT LEAST another 4 months. Initially work between 115kg to 135kg for multiple sets of multiple medium to high reps. With the occasional foray into 140-150 territory. Every session increase your workload. Periodically deload the weight on the bar. End these 4 months with a substantial increase on your 5RM, 8RM and 10RM. You will do more than 170 by then.

Rodger		...	11-12-2015 @ 16:56
salad dodger missing Member 1805, 10367 posts SQ 215, BP 121, DL 240 576.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	Fazc said: Forgot all about 170, forgot about maxing out again for AT LEAST another 4 months. Initially work between 115kg to 135kg for multiple sets of multiple medium to high reps. With the occasional foray into 140-150 territory. Every session increase your workload. Periodically deload the weight on the bar. End these 4 months with a substantial increase on your 5RM, 8RM and 10RM. You will do more than 170 by then. It's almost as if you know what you're talking about...

McMuffin_Gains		...	11-12-2015 @ 19:02
Help me rescue my Insulina. Member 5366, 1090 posts	Rodger said: It's almost as if you know what you're talking about... Meh, surely not!? Get it into your head that just because you don't pull your max every week doesn't mean it will disappear. Training 1-3 reps all the time works for only very few people and even then it probably isn't optimal for their progress. If you aren't eating properly then you won't be gaining for a start, add into the mix external factors, life stressors etc and then compound this with the hammering of your central nervous system constantly trying to hit max lifts every week and to me it seems obvious that you would be going backwards. Get some quality calories in, lower the weight and focus on gradually increasing your volume at lower weights, even if you don't go over 130kg, if you can progress to hit 5 reps instead of 2 you will increase your max in the process. To put it into perspective, I will be going for a 290/300kg attempt in around 8-9 weeks time but my training in that period won't see me go much over 260kg, that's 9 weeks without a max attempt and yet I still expect to be stronger by the end of it. Also a lot of people, myself included find they get a good carryover from squatting, I'd even go as far to say focus more on squatting than deadlifting but everyone is different and you will ultimately have to figure out what works for you. If you are really stuck then ask a coach to do it for you, yes it will cost some money but it will potentially save you a lot of time with trial and error from the mountains of conflicting bulls**t on the internet. Just my two penn'orth

niall		...	11-12-2015 @ 21:43
Member 5717, 10 posts SQ 140, BP 102.5, DL 170 412.5 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq	Thanks for the replies guys. Plenty to think about

Wes		...	12-12-2015 @ 09:09
31.6 and Obese !! Get in.... Member 869, 1355 posts SQ 320, BP 200, DL 310 830.0 kgs @ 97.5kgs Eq	Pm'd you.

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