Tried relaxing with diet / strength dropped
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| bigmattE |  | Tried relaxing with diet / strength dropped | 05-02-2011 @ 15:21 |
Member 2081, 34 posts SQ 200, BP 150, DL 250600.0 kgs @ 125kgs UnEq | Normally I count every single gram of food that i consume via fitday. On average I eat around 600grams carbs and 350g Protein and 110g fats from the likes of olive oil so forth. I know many on this site do not count their intake and simply just go with the flow. Eat when your hungry and all that. So last Saturday i tried not counting and relaxing a bit with my diet. Well it went balls up for me. First to go was my pure endurance and second last night was some of my lifts. I lost strength in some lifts. I did note that some members here do consume a coke and chocolate before a workout, I started doing that and it works pretty good. Think I may make that a more regular thing. Today I have started back to eating like a bodybuilder and counting everything again. And wonder how may performance will improve. I just know my training did not feel as good while not eating a certain way. I believe 100% that nutrition is the key factor in this sport. Plus I enjoy the bodybuilder look. If eating relaxed works good for you, then great and if you need to count, then thats also great. Just goes to show how different we all are in this sport and how certain little things can really impact our own personal performance. | ||
| ben66 | | ... | 05-02-2011 @ 16:13 |
 Why get fat to look big? Member 1330, 4797 posts SQ 300, BP 200, DL 305805.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq | What ever works for you buddy. I just go for 3 meals and snacks if i'm hungry in between! | ||
| SMed | | ... | 05-02-2011 @ 16:38 |
 a splendid chap, unlike some bitches on here Member 1670, 1705 posts SQ 190, BP 112.5, DL 220522.5 kgs @ 89.5kgs UnEq | You were probably so worried and stressed out that you might not be hitting every gram of macros that it threw you off. Maybe. | ||
| bigmattE | | ... | 05-02-2011 @ 17:24 |
Member 2081, 34 posts SQ 200, BP 150, DL 250600.0 kgs @ 125kgs UnEq | I could well have been worried about not hitting my macros. Suppose it was on the back of my mind all week. | ||
| Big_Gray | | ... | 05-02-2011 @ 19:51 |
another lover of conans wheel Member 1116, 2379 posts SQ 275, BP 210, DL 330815.0 kgs @ 134kgs UnEq | Nutrition is key as far as im concerned. I also like bein a strongman that looks like a bb. I dont think it makes me very popular tho lol. Who cares | ||
| Col_Austin | | ... | 05-02-2011 @ 22:03 |
99.8 340/220/335 895 Member 1002, 1560 posts | Post Edited: 05.02.2011 @ 22:08 PM by Col_Austin Don't mean to be rude bigmattE, but while you're preoccupied with diet in the belief that it's key your performance, it's clearly not in your case. You say you look like a bodybuilder, so I assume you're less than 10% body fat, weigh 125kg but only have a 520kg total. Something's not right. Maybe you ought to shift your focus from what you're eating to what you're doing in the gym for a while. | ||
| bigmattE | | ... | 06-02-2011 @ 00:22 |
Member 2081, 34 posts SQ 200, BP 150, DL 250600.0 kgs @ 125kgs UnEq | I wish i was 10% bodyfat. I am not sadly. I would like to have the a shape close to a bodybuilders. | ||
| Pompy | | ... | 06-02-2011 @ 08:49 |
 My opinions have run their course Member 694, 3112 posts | I was going to raise the BB look thing, if u have a BB look at that weight you'd be a pro! | ||
| tlast2O12dude | | ... | 06-02-2011 @ 12:38 |
 Obvious Juicer Member 1613, 1036 posts SQ 185, BP 140, DL 220545.0 kgs @ 66kgs UnEq | dude it's mental, part of you was unsure about relaxing so it make you weak. Lifting is mental. The body can be strong with less food than most people think. I personally think that one should eat a moderate amount of calories (if you are not a professional athlete) because i think it fits more a real life scenario. You dont need to eat more to get strong, that helps a lot, but with the same amount of food you can get strong, it will take more efford and time, but in the end, it will take the same efford and time than a 150kg athlete has because he already got to his heavyest weight possible ( in this example ) and all it remains to be done is training hard. So being 150-170kg and training for more strength is the same as stopping at 90kg or 100kg and not increasing more weight with food and trying to get more srength. There's a point where food stops being a factor, and training and mental attitude is. I always say to people when they ask me about suplements and s**t: "Imagine that you already are taking all the suplements in the world, imagine you weight 200kg and you have the world record in every lift, imagine you are taking all the drugs available, now all you need to do is gain 5kg in all your lifts to get a new title, just train smart" YOu need to train smart, if you were used to eat XXX amount of calories and training with YYY volume, if you stopped eating XXX why you think you will be able to still doing YYY volume? Adapt volume to energy intake, be smart, there are a lot of ways to train the same with diferent methods. | ||
| Matspence | | ... | 06-02-2011 @ 12:51 |
 Member 1391, 693 posts | You are what you eat, plan and simple, I eat very clean all week, have low carbs on off days but on training day up my carbs with fast acting carbs like come chock maze etc, but i will also agree that strngth is 90% mental, iv been playing with my diet for the last 6 months and I'm only just getting somewhere with it, iv lost alot of fat put on alot of clean weight and my stregth has got back to and over taken were I was six months ago and I'm a big believer it's all to do with food, I mean you only have to look at what pudzi had to eat, good look fella and keep up the good work | ||
| Joni | | ... | 07-02-2011 @ 09:43 |
 left the country satisfied Member 10, 19241 posts SQ 240, BP 150, DL 270660.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo | ||
| Big_Gray | | ... | 07-02-2011 @ 12:44 |
another lover of conans wheel Member 1116, 2379 posts SQ 275, BP 210, DL 330815.0 kgs @ 134kgs UnEq | as i stated earlier to me nutrition is key and that is what i will allways believe. however i think at the moment it may be actually holding u back. by this i mean mentally. let me explain lol. i get the impression u have become so concerned with your diet n how u look that important things like training n rest are taking a distant second place and your mental state is a negative one. i could imagine u having a bad days eating n then convincing yourself u will have a bad workout due to his n then it actually happening. i am not knocking u buddie just saying what i see. i think very few people can walk around at under 10% percent body fat n be huge and strong. as a former bodybuilder i know and have seen many top bb pros and believe me a lot of them ballon up when not dieting for comp and are well above 10 % bodyfat, not all but a lot. once they start dialing in for comps n the body fat comes down a lot of them change there training and lose a lot of strength. i dont know youre experience or history but u may find it very difficult to be big lean and strong. on a more positve note i commend u for wanting to achieve something and for wanting to look a certain way. continue taking nutrition seriously but take your training just as serious and dont put so much pressure on yourself to look a certain way or a least give yourself a lot of time to try n reach your goals. | ||
| JC | | ... | 08-02-2011 @ 12:11 |
 technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Joni said:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo LOL, agreed! | ||
| IainKendrick | | ... | 08-02-2011 @ 12:30 |
 some nice relaxing jazz. Member 77, 12599 posts SQ 265, BP 165, DL 280710.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | bigmattE said: I believe 100% that nutrition is the key factor in this sport. Plus I enjoy the bodybuilder look. . What sport are you into? Strongman? How many BBers made it into the top 3 at last years WSM? UKs? He if you enjoy the look then fair enough. Diet is important to recovery from demanding and frequenct training. Particulary as event training is going to really sap you. Plus of course you need to maintain your weight or increase it if needed. All of the above dosn't require counting kcals or macros to the minutae. If you want to then do it, however its not key. | ||